Occupy Wall Street IRC Log September 17, 2011

Network: Freenode
Channel: #occupywallst
Port:6667

Session Start: Sat Sep 17 18:05:10 2011
Session Ident: #occupywallst
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[18:05] I went to that sight but that looks like it's in europe.
[18:05] Not NYC
[18:05] just wondering who financed all this...
[18:05] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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04[18:06] Hey guys I am watching from DC.  Do you think there will be an event here?
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[18:06] Where can i get a live feed of the situation?
[18:06] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[18:06] anon video right now, but mostly it's live
[18:06] Taking all bets on how long this will last before people get bored and go home to watch tv and stuff cheese burgers down their throats.
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[18:07] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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[18:07] dontations through ad busters and this site financed this.. and people going down spending money from their own pockets.. hard to believe abrakadaber. i havent seen a real protest that wasnt that way. other than parties in europe latching on as they find out that something is getting too big to ignore
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[18:07] that isnt live feed
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00[18:08] It occasionally is
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00[18:08] Just wait.
[18:08] hello
[18:08] fellow radicals
[18:08] <@jart> hello :)
[18:08] there has been a protest in amsterdam at the stock exchange in solidarity
[18:08] so isn't adbusters dude lasn from vancouver? 
[18:09] Anonymous organized it hive mind via social engineered them into create an irl version of Denial-of-Service Level II
[18:09] "we got sold out, they got bailed out"
[18:09] Why not occupy the fed? Wall Street isn't the problem. The Federal Reserve is the problem. 
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[18:10] because they aren't really thinking
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[18:10] gotta learn to wield the power of organised solidarity. a whole different kind of politics
[18:10] How many irlers are in the actual event?
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[18:10] imho both r the problem, but cannot solve problems in such a stupid u create more and problems
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[18:11] hi, someone know were all are heading to ? (in the livestream)
[18:11] If we cant occupy the actual target we can still suround it
[18:11] the problem is that we can all agree on hating corporate greed, but we can't agree on socialism
[18:11] nowhere, of course ;)
[18:11] <@agnosticnixie> 15 police scooters on the way
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[18:11] i'd imagine because the fed is secret service, too.
[18:12] the world is behind you
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[18:12] VOTE FOR REAL CHANGE AND DONATE TO RON PAUL TODAY
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[18:12] we need to not fear the government and focus on the right targets... Wall Street is a product of the problem, the Federal Reserve Bank is the source of the problem. 
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[18:12] Better to treat the underlying cause, not the symptoms. 
[18:12] exactly which is why you should all support ron paul
[18:13] in no revolution to date, no socialist ones either, did there exist argeement on that. the ones that actually led to an overthrow of capitalism happened because the leaders of movements made themselves the only leaders to complete the revolution against the current system
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[18:13] hi
[18:13] that includes the bolshewiks in the russian revolution
[18:13] VOTE FOR REAL CHANGE AND DONATE TO RON PAUL TODAY - GET RID OF THE FED
[18:13] https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/
[18:13] http://suntzusaid.com
[18:14] ron paul is a freemarketer... and while an admirable politician, his ideology is rooted in blind market-obsession and naive belief in market applications to all aspects of life
[18:14] they were tiny in the beginning of 1917
[18:14] read it
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[18:14] <@jart> no platform for fascists
[18:15] Police Giving another order to clear sidewalk on Wall St. 
[18:15] Is wall st occupied yet?
[18:15] 4 minutes ago
[18:15] ron paul is a fascist
[18:15] ?
[18:15] ron paul is a fascist? lmao 
[18:15] we can surround isolate it
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[18:15] ron paul is a shill for the corporados
[18:15] lmao
[18:15] suround and isolate
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[18:15] ron paul is an Ayn Rand worshipper... nuff said
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[18:15] he might be but that doesnt make you a fascist yet
[18:15] he has many good ideas and beliefs
[18:15] but many which are dangerous
[18:15] we divide the street from the city
[18:15] and ignorant of reality
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[18:16] we have to deal with geert wilders in holland but i wouldnt call him a fascist yet
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[18:16] i wish i could
[18:16] why it isn't a trending topiiiic!!!!!
[18:16] if ANYTHING we should be supporting the GREEN PARTY for chrissakes
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[18:16] <@jart> #takewallstreet is a trending topic
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[18:16] wtf happened to the green party aside from being marginalized by mainstream-everything?
[18:16] <@agnosticnixie> FrederikB - he's careful to avoid some of the typical fascist stuff
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[18:17] i don't see it
[18:17] they're a much better option than either party or ron paul
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[18:17] time till twitter blocks that hashtag from trending? ;P
[18:17] <@agnosticnixie> I suspect because he's half indonesian ;)
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[18:17] <@agnosticnixie> but he straddles dangerously close
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[18:17] #takewallstreet ist top4 trending now
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[18:17] FrederikB, isn't wall street a bit too far from the place i europe where u r located?
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[18:17] MAKE THIS AMERICAN SPRING COUNT, MAKE IT WORK, THIS IS ONE OF OUR BEST CHANCES AT FORCING GRASSROOTS CHANGE
[18:18] Who can i talk to in the protest?
[18:18] Anybody know rough numbers for how many are now congregating on or near WS?
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[18:18] in hungary there is an actual fascist system now many parts of the state are being run by open nazis, including the whole media with murdoch heavily invested into it, and the jobbik party paramilitary is executing regular pogroms
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[18:18] All political parties are part of the problem
[18:18] dd
[18:18] how many people are there?
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[18:18] media reporting only 500
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[18:18] maybe you should of thought of occupying targets in New York during a month where the average temp is higher than 40f 
[18:18] the roosevelt square was renamed pope benedict square bc roosevelt was on the wrong side of the war
[18:19] There would have been more people, but Macys was having a sale. :)
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[18:19] how long do you expect people to hold out when its freezing outside? 
[18:19] so why don't u protest in budapest?
[18:19] hehe @ MonctonGuy   :)
[18:19] macy's is having a sale? gotta go!
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[18:19] What state is Budapest in?
[18:19] im in berlin, but we do have intense contact with the openly resisting green left party of hungary
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[18:20] Are the rumors about the police pushing the barricades out another block from wallstreet true?
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[18:20] (sadly, i'm left wondering how many of the protesters would actually stay if they heard somewhere was having a 50% off sale. probably not many.)
[18:20] ...
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[18:20] the army in hungary has recieved the task to organise work camps for 100,000s of unemployed
[18:20] isn't forcing the police to erect baracades a good thing?
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[18:21] Not if the people who work on the Wallstreet businesses are still being let through.
[18:21] that's why u want to create a mess in us
[18:21] oh
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[18:21] There is a chance the police will prevent some workers from going to work
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[18:21] GOOD LUCK EVERYONE :)
[18:22] real organizers of bullshit are sitting in other parts of the world. (china? eastern europe, arab world)
[18:22] Any ideas for what we at home can do?
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[18:22] Hopefully, but we have to assume they will let them through, and working on that assumption, the only course of action is to storm the barricades.
[18:22] call your local representative or something
[18:22] nonviolence, please
[18:22] can you tell the story of mahalla
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[18:22] If there are any plane clothed police officers in this room, please identify yourself. 
[18:22] I am basically a beginner at protesting. I went to a protest and participated only two times in my life
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[18:23] mahallah textile factory fromegypt?
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[18:24] We might need a "wall of sound" (psyops) because  we can't occupy more than  half of the side wall
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[18:24] I just thought of something
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[18:24] What about calling major news stations that aren't yet broadcasting news of this event?
[18:24] traders were stopped for a few hours in '79 at "Take it to Wall Street"  anti-nuke action
[18:24] hello
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[18:24] what did you think of?
[18:24] Greetings, how are things going over at wallstreet?
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[18:24] What about two groups of people seperated by a small distance alternately shouting something
[18:24] when it gets serious the guardian might take notice
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[18:25] impossible
[18:25] the real news and democracynow might be able to organise a live text feed
[18:25] yeah
[18:25] if not regular video report
[18:25] I love that Anonymous is using Russia Today footage. I guess Fox News was too credible. :)
[18:25] I figure they should report on it
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[18:25] the young turks will too, I'm sure, by monday
[18:25] they have coined the protests
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[18:26] We can't block via physical mass (our bodies) however we can block with sonic vibrations (sounds)
[18:26] antother place where "nonexitent" leaders might reside...
[18:26] but theyre not actively following up on it like it were a major event
[18:26] I'm pretty sure Democracy Now will cover it
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[18:26] theyll report on it tommorrow morning
[18:26] How is the situation over at wallstreet?
[18:26] How many people estimated now?
[18:27] WE NEVER FORGIVE NEVER FORGET
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[18:27] nobody seems to be able to tell
[18:27] How is babby fromed?
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[18:27] don't care
[18:27] my estimate, according to video 200 - 400
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[18:27] daar komt de nederlander uit de mouw :)
[18:27] so, barack obama -- conservative, or really conservative?
[18:27] lol nederlanders :P
[18:27] en uit die mou kom die mense!
[18:27] Really conservative. A Bush in Liberal clothing :p
[18:28] implying there are different types of politicians other than 'completely corrupt.'
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[18:28] Oops, someone sent me a message, I didn't see it for a long time. sorry
[18:28] just make sure that the heap paradox does not affect us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heap_paradox
[18:28] oh, sorry
[18:28] Dear God, there are Christian evangelists in the group
[18:28] barack obama -- corrupt, or really corrupt?
[18:28] I want Jesus to protect me from his followers
[18:28] Sounds like a good guy
[18:28] All politicians are corrupt
[18:28] don't care we need people
[18:28] to be honest
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[18:29] sometimes I wonder if barack obama even has like normal human emotions
[18:29] to bad i dont live in the USA
[18:29] i would have joined
[18:29] anarchy don't work either
[18:29] the guy doesn't seem to want to stand for anything
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[18:29] "God does not exist" (Wikipedia)
[18:29] because a bad polititian can always be replaced
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[18:29] any mechanism in place to provide rides to the protest from out of state?
[18:29] Anarchy in the sense of libertarian socialist/horizontal society or anarchy in the sense of chaos?
[18:29] if we argue about religion we are forgetting the point here
[18:30] A bad politician can be replaced... with another bad politican :p
[18:30] Jesus is awesome! 
[18:30] read up on united front strategy. the most succuessful campaings in europe like the united against fascism in england will work with eveyone agreeing on how to tackle one issue. conservative to revolutionary
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[18:30] jesus was a pretty cool bro
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[18:30] he was totally gay, and smoked a lot of weed
[18:30] Has the "One Demand" been decided?
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[18:30] or the current anti cuts movement for that matter also involve local labour party councillors
[18:30] might have been psychotic though
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[18:30] imoutus, what is the point againt? 
[18:30] Just burn the stumps on a hydra's head
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[18:30] What's the General Assembly?
[18:31] Is any of us in the protest?
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[18:31] did anyone set up wifi and comunication?
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[18:31] hello
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[18:31] Religion is incompatible with communism. These religious dudes need to get with the program.
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[18:32] i thought the point was striving for a more perfect union... without kleptocracy and with more social unity
[18:32] im in a 'communist' group with muslims and christians and a couple of sikhs
[18:32] Points are in constant flux imoutus
[18:32] hello, dropping in just to wish y'all the best - Solidarity from London, UK
[18:32] if you guys really sound like this this movement is dead from the beginning
[18:32] 'Protesters blocked in bid to 'occupy' Wall Street' from AFP - http://bit.ly/n277py
[18:33] No.
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[18:33] day of rage is the number 4 hot search term on google trends
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[18:33] @imoutus, people come to agree that the current system's means and forms of operation are unacceptable.
[18:33] HALLO
[18:33] echo we know America can do revolution, come on!
[18:33] where can i find some photos of the occupy wallstreet?
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[18:34] Are the regulars in wall street blocked?
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[18:34] http://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%23takewallstreet
[18:34] i would come over and hug each and every 300 million americans if that happened
[18:34] Wish I could be there in person, but I am with you in spirit!!!
[18:34] anything going on in the netherlands?
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[18:34] @imoutus, they agree in a very important way; that direct, personal action can alter that system into something the individual percieves to be better.
[18:34] The people in Cuba seem happy enough to work for $20 a month. Just saying.
[18:34] or we in the netherlands waiting for prinsjes dag? and the miljoenen nota?
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[18:34] that is because goods are much cheaper there
[18:35] and they have heathcare
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[18:35] good healthcare
[18:35] prescription drugs cost pennies what they do here in the US for the same thing
[18:35] not for profit healthcare!!
[18:35] the problem is profit!
[18:35] the people in Cuba get health benefits you will never see
[18:35] yeah that one i hope will be big. i havent been able to build for that protest cuz im in berlin but i have good hopes for it now the sp is joining in
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[18:35] @imoutus, though their voices are seperate, they are united in action; that is what is so beautiful, and so easy to contribute to about this demonstration and the anonymous movements of political change.
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[18:35] hey, can anyone send me some link of photos from today? wish i could see what happened
[18:35] how many people are there?
[18:35] that is actually beautiful
[18:36] anyone who's seen it?
[18:36] seeds
[18:36] ur masters will pay you for ticket to the US, FrederikB?
[18:36] I hope and pray everyday that the populist revolt will finally happen...I want my children to grow up in a world where we help each other, not try to make money off of each other
[18:36] WILL THIS AFFECT THE PRICE OF BEER?
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[18:36] you cannot support this and worry about beer
[18:36] do you feel any heighening of political awareness, anti cuts and anti wilders in holland. i have been out of town would like to hear a point of view
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[18:37] is it over already
[18:37] Periodically, someone is posting something to youtube from the frontlines. It sounds like a few marches have run up against the barricade and that a few people have been arrested.
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[18:37] Then pass the beer nuts (Cheers reference)
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[18:37] http://www.fugginsuggin.com/2011/09/occupy-wallstreet.html
[18:37] this may be over, but the next one?
[18:37] why is it over already
[18:37] But, it is not over by any means.
[18:37] i dont understand
[18:37] how did the occupation go?
[18:37] seems pretty over
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[18:37] yes, still happening.
[18:38] how come?
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[18:38] Is there any radio coverage of this event ? So we can really hear what's going on ?
[18:38] People are occupying the Internet. That is where the money is.
[18:38] What happened?
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[18:38] many arrests?
[18:38] Zuccotti Park where 1000+ protesters are gathered is being surrounded by police. Suggest prepare to disperse & reform.
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[18:38] ------Newsflash, the occupation is not over, very few have been arrested.----
[18:38] ty shiva
[18:39] Next time, we should do this in Jersey. 
[18:39] ...
[18:39] Where in Jersey?
[18:39] thanks shivashekaria
[18:39] ShivaShekaria are you in the protest?
[18:39] wall st in jersey??
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[18:39] No, but close enough (and cheaper)
[18:39] No. I am not.
[18:39] next time you should do this inside the stock exchange
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[18:40] Is anyone allowed in wall street?
[18:40] Yes
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[18:40] Do we know if anyone has been arrested yet?
[18:40] any news chanels reporting the demonstration?
[18:40] Only a certain amout though, right?
[18:40] people who work there can be voluntarilly Id'ed by police and then allowed through.
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[18:40] who is allowed in wall street during ows
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[18:41] *see previous post*
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[18:41] Saturday night. Even if this was on TV, nobody [important] watching. 
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[18:41] CNN.com has something
[18:41] http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/17/technology/occupy_wall_street/?hpt=hp_t2
[18:41] no arrests, don't want to stink up the paddy wagons
[18:41] hundreds?
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[18:41] LOL
[18:41] @Hermano, yeah, but only online.
[18:41] assholes
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[18:42] currently live streaming aljazeera and not one report, im a little disapointed
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[18:42] is it over?
[18:42] get used t oprtests not being reported
[18:42] NOT OVER
[18:42] No.
[18:42] haha
[18:42] Someone tell Josh Dworning, real socialists take the bus. :)
[18:42] Any beds yet?
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[18:43] what happend to the live stream is it down or something?
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[18:43] do you know a rough number of how many are taking part at the moment??
[18:43] the media wont cover this, the media is owned by business and business needs to keep attention off of the protests
[18:43] 12
[18:43] livestream in 17 minutes
[18:43] 20000
[18:43] ok, guys, continue to follow instructions from ur leaders who reside in europe and middle east. let got give some brains
[18:43] NYC generassembly livestream 17 minutes
[18:43] The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people h
[18:43] Did you all see the New youtube videos posted half an hour ago from the protests?
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[18:43] which videos>?
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[18:44] Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay fo
[18:44] can someone link them?
[18:44] Nope
[18:44] Crowd at zuccoti park for #occupywallst remaining strong under setting sun and increasing police presence. #takewallstreet
[18:44] : )
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[18:44] RT @SabzBrach: Nothing actually happening on Wall St. Cop says of plasticuffs, "they're just for show."
[18:44] @ agree
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[18:44] @AngryDeuce, that is a bit oversimplified. But it is better than being hateful and scared...
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[18:45] <@agnosticnixie> next assembly at Broadway-Liberty plaza
[18:45] @it should be more simple that complicated? Possibly?
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[18:45] Is there still problems with the police at the site?
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[18:45] We should rename this a "protest against spam" to get more attention.
[18:46] Only to the point that it unites, and doesn't seem, so narrow-minded that it alienates the intellectual crowds.
[18:46] ^@jdestrad
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[18:47] How do they justify this many uniforms? Wall St. obviously pays well on Saturday nights
[18:47] afp finally put out a bulletin
[18:47] But yes, simplicity can unite much more easily than complex systems of logic.
[18:47] says nothing about numbers though
[18:47] pussyfooting
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[18:47] Update,
[18:47] what sort of numbers are there?
[18:47] we should have some pictures of the cop crowds
[18:48] the General assembly is going to meet again in about 30 minutes.
[18:48] 200,000
[18:48] or, so it seems.
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[18:48] wow
[18:48] The people in this chat room outnumber the people on Wall Street
[18:48] @possibly that whats complicated is realy simply. Understanding the propaganda model should be relatively simple? What makes us complicated are peopels "wants"?
[18:48] lol
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[18:48] oh ruben
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[18:49] People are complicated becasue we have been conditioned to be as such
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[18:49] san fransisco chronicle says "as many as 1000"
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[18:49] sounds low considering the crowd in the pictures
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[18:49] Well, I think it could even be 5,000 people.
[18:49] Beer would cost less if we didn't live in a kleptocracy
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[18:49] greetings from Israel. We've demonstrated today against the banks and got good coverage in the main economic papers. whats the situation in NYC?
[18:50] Do we know when they're supposed to go live again?
[18:50] it's just picking up it ooks
[18:50] It has only gotten started.
[18:50] is live
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[18:50] @  we might not have beer if we didnt live in one : )
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[18:50] http://jacobinmag.com/summer-2011/how-can-the-left-win/
[18:50] It's going LIVE!
[18:50] zzzzzzzzzz
[18:51] will have to wait an hour or so to see more coverage possibly...i hope they stay past monday when the stock markets open back up
[18:51] I wish I could be there with you guys :(
[18:51] I wish I could be there with you guys :(
[18:51] If I call for a riot, do I get added to the no-fly list?
[18:51] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution  IS LIVE
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[18:51] Learn to hold a camera!
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[18:52] its not live
[18:52] finally some moderation on the livestream
[18:52] i was just there
[18:52] you might have been added for asking that question for all i know
[18:52] lol
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[18:52] ok nevermind
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[18:53] does anyone actually have any numbers or information on what's been happening?
[18:53] <@agnosticnixie> COPS ARE ABANDONING BASTILLE PLACE IN PARIS!!!
[18:53] <@agnosticnixie> :D
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[18:53] http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jwB_zy0tcSXCUegKjGvlfkRmt7UA?docId=CNG.77b84336cea698f00a40b5ac55207970.de1
00[18:53] Is anyone in contact with Global Revolution?
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[18:53] Also, if they're dispersed today do they plan to keep coming back?
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[18:53] There are 6200 people viewing, and 6200 people protesting... Are they the same people?
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[18:53] what is this for?
[18:53] http://jacobinmag.com/summer-2011/how-can-the-left-win/
00[18:53] It's a daily event for months I think
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[18:54] sup with the media blackout?
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[18:54] Confused, repeal of the beer tax
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[18:54] wow all middle class kids looking at themselves from their iphones
[18:54] are we all protesting corporate greed?
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[18:54] we should all occupy our respected local major business districts
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[18:55] Ron Paul for President
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[18:55] Never happen, MonctonGuy.  He's not enough of a fucking lunatic for the modern GOP
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[18:55] I am just hearing about this, what is the demand you are making?
[18:55] NO DEMANDS.  JUST PEOPLE
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[18:55] Give us Freedom.
[18:55] i think his so beloved market would crash the day he came to office for fear of his radical neoliberalism
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[18:55] Be patient guys. On July 14th we were less than a dozen in tel aviv, hundreds of tents and thousdands in the streets later. 
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[18:56] The USA spends more on the military than all countries COMBINED!
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[18:56] US bombs cost more than anything they can destroy
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[18:56] Just his promise to end the wars has drawn the immense ire of the military industrial complex.  If he miraculously got the nomination, and even got elected, I bet they'd take him out just like the did Kennedy
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[18:56] MILLIONS GIVEN TO CORPORATIONS FROM TAXPAYERS
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[18:57] Hi I,m from holland...and is iy happening?
[18:57] it
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[18:57] <@jart> wall street is being occupied
[18:57] I mean it should take place today?
[18:57] Are people still there?
[18:57] YEs Okay
[18:57] Yes.
[18:57] Right on....
[18:57] The news is saying that they have been cleared out
[18:57] <@agnosticnixie> yes it is
[18:57] <@agnosticnixie> already going on
[18:57] What news?
[18:57] what news?
[18:57] <@agnosticnixie> no, they just moved to another meeting spot
[18:57] there was a little one in amsterdam as well
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[18:57] What source?
[18:57] There is no news over here......
[18:58] congrats anonymous! you are making international headlines! 
[18:58] <@agnosticnixie> we organized a circuit in lower manhattan
[18:58] organised by the internationale socialisten
[18:58] haven't seen any coverage of this on msm
[18:58] its in the metro
00[18:58] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[18:58] http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jwB_zy0tcSXCUegKjGvlfkRmt7UA?docId=CNG.77b84336cea698f00a40b5ac55207970.de1
[18:58] <@agnosticnixie> it was not organized by anon
[18:58] <@agnosticnixie> >.<
[18:58] anon just supported it, they did not organize it
00[18:58] Who was it organized by?
[18:58] many different people
[18:58] its grassroots, no one org
[18:58] it falls under no single organisation
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[18:59] <@agnosticnixie> a number of individuals and collectives including NYC Uncut, a few individual members of the IWW, and lots and lots of collectives and groups like USDOR
00[18:59] So the idea is a stand alone complex.. hah..
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[18:59] <@agnosticnixie> anon joined about two three weeks in >.>
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[18:59] <@agnosticnixie> yeah, it's a big convergence of a lot of people
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[18:59] sorry, i just go back with anons. anyway, i think ya'll are making waves. i have had faith that awakenings (like the one you desire from this) can happen pretty much over night
[18:59] best of luck and stay safe
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[18:59] just because you dont have any doesnt mean that grass roots organisations cant exist
[18:59] so the people there plan on staying there for a while, right?
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[19:00] does anyone know where they're staying now?
[19:00] GLOBAL Revolution is LIVE
[19:00] Trump Tower
[19:00] again.
[19:00] nice
[19:00] Look at those crowds and know, the protest has only just Begun.
[19:00] do u think cops are monitorig this ?
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[19:01] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution LIVE LIVE LIVE
[19:01] they coverWall ST, but the media still can't count!
[19:01] <@agnosticnixie> probably
[19:01] http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet
[19:01] <@agnosticnixie> we don't care
[19:01] Dude, there are cops surrounding most of the protest cores.
[19:01] <@agnosticnixie> Hi, cops
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[19:01] Man, is that the line for the iPhone5 ?!
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[19:01] they look hungry
[19:01] Who knows what? I just got home from work, how is everything going?
[19:01] feed them
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[19:01] <@agnosticnixie> MK :p
[19:02] you're having a couple of premature early earthquakes, the next thing like this is planned for washington at october the 6th, i hope something permanent is kicking off
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[19:02] <@agnosticnixie> Ruben - maybe time to start the pizza lines ;)
[19:02] wow
[19:02] on the live stream it looks like it is in full swing
[19:02] respect from Poland
[19:02] the media can't cover the protests, they need to maintain the illusion that it's all cookie communists that are angry about the fact that we're being exploited
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[19:02] i donated to that food program, what's on the menu?
[19:02] ;-)
[19:02] so what's the situation on teh ground, NYTimes says police have barricaded wall st and stopped people from getting in
[19:02] i'm an alternative magazine editor in western ky. i checked out the website - and i'm seeing that they are reporting that you guys are organized by adbusters (which I gather is wrong) and there are only 700 people there, which I also heard was BS. about how many do you think you have?
[19:02] peanut butter sandwiches...and lots of them
[19:02] Keep the faith people, awesome, peanut butter butter butter
[19:02] hmmmm
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[19:03] I'm going to protest this winter by going to Cuba or Venezuella instead of Florida or PR.
[19:03] they're letting select people in it seems...
[19:03] well, there need to be some rallies in solidarity with them
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[19:03] keep it pescerful
[19:03] in Poland media are saying there are something around  60 thousands of people there... is it true?!
[19:03] peaceful
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[19:03] how are they deciding who gets in - and more importantly, why are the police the ones deciding...
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[19:03] probably so they can eventually disperse...idk...it sounds like what happened in london
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[19:03] They are letting businessmen who voluntarilly are id'ed and registered.
[19:04] ...
[19:04] if you cant get in, kettle the police :p
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[19:04] Can I order Pizza for these people?
[19:04] What's the situation in Wall Street?
[19:04] @here4awhile, that is ridiculous. This is completely different.
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[19:04] I hope that things stay peacefull
[19:04] Any links for the news?
[19:04] no news coverage
[19:04] There are no violent riots, arson or looting.
[19:04] http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet
[19:04] http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet
[19:04] good
[19:04] Thank you!
[19:05] i know that lol...that's not how it started tho is it
[19:05] Having this on a Saturday is disrespecfull to New York's large Jewish population.
[19:05] sadly, even if traffic is shut down, relatively little to no net effect.
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[19:05] we just wait and see the police response in the following day
[19:05] looting=/=protest
[19:05] especially come monday
[19:05] wow that is one far fetched piece of criticism
[19:05] @ yes, but its necessary 
[19:05] Reporters will show up when people over 35 show up.
[19:05] I have my doubts they're going to just let these people sit around wall street
[19:05] MK, this is going on for a month, so no, it isn't
[19:05] no looting
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[19:05] O yeah  http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/us-protesters-rally-occupywallstreet BULL SHIT
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[19:06] just say no to looting
[19:06] lol that was never on the table though was it?
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[19:06] so this is going to last 'til monday or as long as it takes for people to notice?
[19:06] I have a bad feeling that Wall Street is just going to laugh thus off.
[19:06] btw thats all presuming jewish people are not also among  the protestors
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[19:07] they want it to last as long as possible
[19:07] The protest organizers are insisting that they are occupying wallstreet "for a few months"
[19:07] I'm ordering 200 pizzas tomorrow for lunch if there still there.
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[19:07] they're
[19:07] You can currently stream "Wall Street" on Netflix Canada. 
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[19:07] Hermano, wall street is going to laugh it off, really.
[19:07] whether they have the strength for it is a second question
[19:07] no they won't
[19:07] if you want to have any sort of impact, you have to shut down the data centers. good luck on that one.
[19:07] is there a non-video feed of events somewhere that isn't twitter?
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[19:08] Ruben, please buy your pizza from a restaurant with unionized staff. 
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[19:08] any suggestions
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00[19:08] Yeah is there a live text feed I am interested.
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[19:08] all protests like these end. the question is how much better organised do you come out of it
[19:08] what pizza places have unionized workers? lol i've never heard that...
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[19:09] haha unionized pizzeria
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[19:09] Events as they stand right now are chaotic and confused. Police seeming to take advantage of confusion. Approx 80 cops surrounding park
[19:09] hey Ruben, good on you for buying food
[19:09] that's funniest thing since jewish janitors
[19:09] order the pizza's from a locally owned pizzeria not some corporate pizza place
[19:09] mainstream media is not covering it
[19:09] are people free to leave?
[19:09] Hey!
[19:09] you have to patiently build up a movement that is prepared to take on an entrenched system that has closed off the electoral road
[19:09] NY1 just released a short clip!
[19:09] Check youtube.
[19:09] "no, you can't order a slice, i'm on a break"
[19:10] Hey - you guys are making an impact - I heard about it in a small town where the newpaper, TV station, and even the government is owned by Paxton Media (which is why I started my own newspaper) and I commend you guys for it - stay strong, and the word will spread, to hell with gatekeepers!
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[19:10] 'Anonymous' protest in thousands on Wall Street TADAY!!!!!
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[19:10] Only buy pizza with local ingredients, grown in lowertown. 
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[19:10] Ruben, eat a turd
[19:10] i agree with buying locally produced pizza
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[19:10] so what's going on currently at wall st? anybody in here there?
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[19:10] @ lol...why?
[19:11] ultimately, it's going to come down to whether or not people are willing to risk everything for a chance at changing this wreck.
[19:11] my my, what's wrong with dopedog
[19:11] They just shut down the electricity.
[19:11] i'd love to eat pizza with nyc-produced ingredients, sewage-flavored crust++
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00[19:11] Did they really shut off the electricyt?
[19:11] electricity to *what*
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[19:11] Now now, I hate NY, but I doubt the pizza is sewer flavoured
[19:11] what alex said
[19:11] @ if this were necessary i would eat it. i would eat anything
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[19:11] <@agnosticnixie> onlooker_ - I suspect the alternative if this sort of thing fails is
[19:11] i'm a block away, and no, electricity is just fine here
[19:11] the "square" park they're in
[19:11] <@agnosticnixie> people will be pissed off anyway
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[19:12] perhaps a hippie didn't pay electric bill.
[19:12] ah, i'm just Retweeting
[19:12] the police are telling them to disperse
[19:12] <@agnosticnixie> starving people don't act politely and non-violently
[19:12] oeps on th e live stream is a heavy tention
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[19:12] Source?
[19:12] how many ppl would you say?
[19:12] http://twitter.com/#!/SabzBrach
[19:12] is there a count of how many people?
[19:12] lots of police
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[19:12] the police look like they're organizing
[19:12] jesus haevy shit
[19:12] agnosticnixie: sure, but people are already pissed off. being pissed off doesn't accomplish anything really.
[19:12] <@agnosticnixie> estimates go from a core group of about 2-3k and more crowds
[19:12] here4awhile, source?
[19:12] not wanting to sound presumptious, but on the first anti nato demo i went on in france i was repeadably charged and shot at massively with aimed tear gas cluster canisters. they explode on your body. i made the decision i would do that again as long as i am in a group i have absolute faith in
[19:12] reinstate glass-steagall
[19:12] it's on the livefeed
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[19:12] they are getting people out\
[19:12] <@agnosticnixie> the more crowds has the problem of being extremely hard to count as we don't know how many
[19:13] looks like ther 100 of police...
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[19:13] hey all, coming down there in a couple of hours - what's the situation?
[19:13] <@agnosticnixie> some reports are in the 10s of thousands for the whole
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[19:13] @controlling piss is important
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[19:13] the police are making you guys leave?
[19:13] 2-3k? you gotta be kidding. maybe 1000. i wouldn't even say that many.
[19:13] anyone watching this? http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution are there better streams? the ads and the flash are difficult to deal with
[19:13] Whoops http://twitter.com/#!/AyeshaKazmi
[19:13] no riot police though so that's a good sign...
[19:13] is wall st. totally blocked off ?
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00[19:13] everyone is watchin that..
[19:13] <@agnosticnixie> FrederikB - btw, the french police is running away from Place de la Bastille
[19:13] Count the number of people in a small area, then multiply that by the number of small areas in the whole group
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[19:14] 2-3k if you count all tourists that are taking pictures
[19:14] that was not a joke?
[19:14] go OccupyWallStreet go OccupyWallStreetgo OccupyWallStreet !!!! :-)
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[19:14] haha fuck them
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00[19:14] UH OH.  We know what red flags mean.
[19:14] i like how they're trying to link this to IRAN
[19:14] haha
[19:14] through twitter
[19:14] <@agnosticnixie> no I was serious, I found it hilarious
[19:14] they are some creepy people still wanting revenge for being kicked out of paris in 1968
[19:14] Red flags good sign
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[19:14] <@agnosticnixie> tbh, Paris is supposed to be built so cops and the army can take control easily
[19:14] is there a way to follow the #occupywallst twitter feed without a twitter account
[19:14] lol it has nothing to do with any other country...
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[19:15] <@agnosticnixie> THAT TOTALLY WORKED SO WELL!!!
[19:15] has #refref done any damage yet?
[19:15] does Anonymous have a website
[19:15] What is ref ref?
[19:15] refref is A NEW VERSION OF LOIC
[19:15] I mean I heard its a tool of some type made by anon
[19:15] Hi there... any idea how many people are there already ?
[19:15] it's not influenced by any other protest...it's influenced by the fact that Washington has sold out to wall street greed
[19:15] refref has been proven to be a hoax. now if only everyone admitted #occupywallst was too...
[19:15] Leaving now, but I'll be watching (and sharing) - stay safe and good luck!
[19:15] ...
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[19:15] Alex, what makes you think it's a hoax?
[19:16] does Anonymous have a website?
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[19:16] it isnt a hoax, u will see
[19:16] Joanne Michele  Cop: "nothing will happen. They'll get bored & go home. They might smoke a little weed, that's it."
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[19:16] klwe123 not really
[19:16] shiva, what *doesnt*? supposedly announced today, and the only things posted are links to rickroll
[19:16] its a headless organisation.. ;)
[19:16] joel: bullshit. they'll smoke a LOT of weed.
[19:16] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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[19:16] in germany though a couple of 100.000 strong demonstrations accross the country was enough under the circumstances to make merkel drop nuclear power. you never quite know when the powers that be will make conessions
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[19:16] Live streamed video from the event
[19:16] I want to ovvupy Wall Street!
[19:17] alex: software are sometimes not planable ;)
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[19:17] *occupy
[19:17] hello
[19:17] hello matty
[19:17] so what if someone smoke weed
[19:17] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hun1PeTSw8 (news report on event)
[19:17] FrederikB: you mean meaningless concessions. how many of germany's nuclear plants are now waiting to be decommissioned?
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[19:17] Anyone here at wall street?
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[19:17] klew: i am. 
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[19:17] whats going on there?
[19:17] so is the news report true that the cops shut the whole thing down?
[19:17] Is there a lot of people there, alex?
[19:17] absolutely fucking nothing.
[19:17] i'll check in on this later on i gotta go get dinner with my girl
[19:18] What news report?
[19:18] how do the girls look down there?
[19:18] did it get dispersed?
[19:18] Identify your source or gtfo.
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[19:18] there's a cordon of two-bored-cops deep blocking off wall st from broadway
[19:18] google 'occupy wall street'
[19:18] the cops shut it down?
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[19:18] how is it going on wall st?
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[19:18] i thought there were 17 and i know of many refineries, and its a plan for 2021.. i dont quite know how it will turn out though after the elections. if the greens and spd will not push it through a second time it will make people a lot angrier
[19:18] <@agnosticnixie> atm I think most of the action is on Broadway
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[19:18] they are going to mars in 5 min....
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[19:18] break the lines and rise guys ;-)
[19:18] to walk
[19:18] there's absolutely nobody there. there were a few dozen starwars-looking-retards with a cross earlier
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[19:19] no one there?
[19:19] Um, a good protester will have spare batteries
[19:19] On the live stream it looks like a lot of people
[19:19] Hey Shiva.  http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jwB_zy0tcSXCUegKjGvlfkRmt7UA?docId=CNG.77b84336cea698f00a40b5ac55207970.de1
[19:19] but any long term talk at the moment is very hard. i have no faith in any sort of stability of the system
[19:19] I hear 20 K
[19:19] Looks pretty busy from the stream
[19:19] wasn't sure if those are trekkies, priests or hippies
[19:19] fuck you nobody there
[19:19] Doing this in Anchorage today was a bust. Nobody showed up. Anybody up for tomorrow here? terrorfism at gmail dot com
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[19:19] there are many people.. so dont talk shit @ aley
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[19:19] i'm on a corner of rector&broadway.
[19:19] there is lots of people
[19:19] alex*
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[19:19] and Alex
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[19:20] So, they have police horses there now?
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[19:20] most people are by bowling green, few blocks down
[19:20] Question from Spain: Are going to camp?
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[19:20] Hey tylerdurden, that report only tells us what we already know. That the police barricaded wallstreet from the protests and that the protesters are now setting up tents and sleeping bags to occupy the area for a long time.
[19:20] It is legal to sleep on sidewalks, NO structures.
[19:20] Bowling green????
[19:20] I wonder when it will start getting violent
[19:20] Is camping happening at bowling green
[19:20] shiva: that is a load of bullshit.
[19:20] I'm concerned for those who plan to stay overnight. Does NY have any laws dictating how and where people can sit, walk and sleep on the sidewalks?
[19:20] Word that cops are coming in now
[19:20] How so, Alex?
[19:20] germany at the moment is absolutely ripping apart greece economically and in terms of national sovereignty and democratic content of institutions. it is a very vicious player
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[19:20] Win!!!
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[19:20] Um, the cops are always "coming in"
[19:20] how many people we talking here?
[19:21] i think the numbers will come
[19:21] I hope the people staying there have enough stuff to keep warm, it's going to get cold :o
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[19:21] shiva: a) wall st is *always* closed to traffic. today it was closed to pedestrians who have no business in the NYSE area.
[19:21] be patient give it time
[19:21] Do you think it will really last 2 months?
[19:21] *again* I'm just retweeting, not in NYC
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[19:21] see this: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[19:21] b) there was nobody massing at cordons
[19:21] couldn't make it today; somebody wanna give me an idea of how many showed up?
[19:21] I believe in this march, but sadly I just don't think it will hold together
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[19:21] will people remain tomorrow?
[19:21] the twitter says IT'S OVER 9000!  (people, that is)
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[19:21] they said the occupation would be a month, not everyone will show on the first day.. once the word spreads, the numbers will come
[19:21] The server for occupywallst.org is  NS1.LOBSTERTECH.COM . Ironic
[19:21] ANONnewsINT: This park is private property, and owner has said he doesn't want us here. More discussion to come about this later
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[19:21] where do the tweets come from and is there anyone keeping a status report or something for this website maybe
[19:22] couldn't make it today; somebody wanna give me an idea of how many showed up?
[19:22] what are they looking to get out of this?  Seriously though.
[19:22] ahaha. OVER 9000!!! 
[19:22] @Alex, (a) that is true, (b) then what am I seeing in the Live stream?
[19:22] I'm listening to this http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1855
[19:22] yeah where do the tweets come from
[19:22] globalrevolution is NOT live right now
[19:22] around 9000+ i heard was a good estimate
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[19:22] b) its at bowling green. look at the map when you sober up, wall street is about 5 blocks away from bowling green park
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[19:22] Is Twitter unionized? 
[19:22] RT @anonops: Riot cops are on their way. CONFIRMED #TakeWallStreet & #OccupyWallStreet #Sep17 STAY STRONG! STAY TOGETHER!
[19:22] @shica.. dont give a damn fuck about alex.. we see what happening there ;-)
[19:23] A "suspicious" person standing by a payphone with a brown bag
[19:23] there us a livestream ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s 
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[19:23] @alex, who cares where they are right now?
[19:23] for live feed http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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[19:23] Riot police is marching in
[19:23] @shiva*
[19:23] I wish I had learned about this earlier. I'm unemployed and I'm only 5 hours away from NYC...I would have liked to help out somehow. 
[19:23] is that a rumor or fact
[19:23] RIOT POLICE OH NO
[19:23] right as we speak
[19:23] shiva: the question was 'is wallst occupied'. the answer is, no.
[19:23] it may be a good time before the riot cops show to start movement towards wall street
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[19:23] where are the tweets coming from
[19:23] yes
[19:23] this movement will go all through october, there is always time to help!!
[19:23] is the plain to stay tomorrow?
[19:23] http://twitter.com/#!/AnonNewsOPS
[19:23] 9000+ people can easily break a police  blockade if they work togethr
[19:24] its gonna be on all month
[19:24] thanks
[19:24] about how many people are occupying?
[19:24] wait for the numbers to grow!
[19:24] No violence, please
[19:24] what square are they at right now for the gen assemb?
[19:24] there's a bit of difference between tahrir and bowling green. a) its much colder here b) hippies are from westcoast and can't really tolerate cold weather
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[19:24] I think just run occupy disperse rinse repeat would be a good strategy
[19:24] anonops AnonOps  NOW: Cops are cutting chains of bikes chained around plaza #TakeWallStreet & #OccupyWallStreet #Sep17 STAY STRONG! STAY TOGETHER!
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[19:24] all dressed as businesspeople to better melt away
[19:24] If you want to get on CNN, you need violence. 
[19:24] No violence from the people.....but the cops will vreate tension
[19:24] create
[19:25] shomon: don't do it on saturday. there are no business people in suits on saturday.
[19:25] anon et. al really should have consulted people who know the system. should've been over at 60 to 130 hudson..
[19:25] <@agnosticnixie> we can stick to no violence so long as it's not suicide
[19:25] We get violent, it makes us look really bad
[19:25] ah yes... catering?
[19:25] oh well
[19:25] there should be more pictures online!!
[19:25] to be honest, there aren't that many people in suits on weekdays either. in case you missed the note, wallst area is now mostly residential.
[19:25] I'm in barcelona anyway. we have a protest tomorrow
[19:25] Evacuating to a publicspace now
[19:25] No violence = no TV. Way it works
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[19:25] Just saw a brief report on CNN
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[19:26] <@agnosticnixie> Tahrir was a battlefield after two days
[19:26] http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-17/news/30168338_1_alternative-minimum-alternative-minimum-tax-incomes
[19:26] onlooker_: what's at 60-130 hudson? other than 60 hudson telecom hotel?
[19:26] is there still a feed from al jazeera?
[19:26] about how many people are occupying?
[19:26] <@agnosticnixie> and most of the revolutions people insist were nonviolent weren't purely so
[19:26] 7k
[19:26] they burned down all the police stations in three days in cairo
[19:26] 1000 last I heard, but surrounded by police...
[19:26] <@agnosticnixie> few thousand
[19:26] It's sad that the network of our so-called "enemy" has a feed while CNN doesn't
[19:26] alex-pilosoft: try a -lot- of data centers and switchgear.
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[19:26] what is the enemy?
[19:27] Al-Jazeera's always been pretty good about covering protest movements
[19:27] hope you all know al jazeera sold out !!
[19:27] Wouldn't giving to left leaning Democrats be more effective?
[19:27] no one is the enemy
[19:27] <@jart> last i heard, there were about 1500 in zuccotti park *alone*
[19:27] are they going to be partying?
[19:27] Obama To Sock Rich With A "Buffett Tax" On Incomes Of $1 Million Or More  Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-17/news/30168338_1_alternative-minimum-alternative-minimum-tax-incomes#ixzz1YFtUtCib
[19:27] onlooker_: and why do servers care if theres a few thousand hippies surrounding them?
[19:27] hes refering to al jazeer having coverage of the protest 
[19:27] how did al-jazeera sell out
[19:27] revolutions are a strange subject. I wouldn't go for a revolution in the way most of them pan out, but see it more as an internal, personal thing in people who begin to protest or take responsibility for things
[19:27] It's LIVE again.
[19:27] THey are CNN and alikes....
[19:27] in that sense, the revolution happens across society as a cultural change takes place...
[19:27] never give up the resistance.. stay true.. anonymous are legion.. do not forgive do not forget!
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[19:28] More people will be joining in as it gets later. Here in New York, most people I talked to were planning to show up after 10 PM
[19:28] Qatar is not a model for anything
[19:28] alex-pilosoft: they don't. the traders that rely on those systems and circuits however, do.
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[19:28] RT still does a pretty good job but al jazeera sold out for sure
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[19:28] RT is still free
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[19:28] RT TV that is
[19:28] what is an easy way a 15 year old can get in on the action?
[19:28] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[19:28] According to the twitter feed at the bottom of the livestream, riot personel are at the scene
[19:28] Is there any way to funnel monetary contributions?
[19:28] new message from anon
[19:28] RT is a Putin mouthpiece, get real
[19:28] 11 people got killed in the russian revolution of octobre 1918. in the british miners strike it was 12, and more police. but once you get into a revolutionary situation it becomes a contest between two conrete powers. and you better win
[19:28] onlooker_: a) you mess with 60 hudson, you'll have a lot more pissed off people than traders (aka, me)
[19:29] well they show atleast an other side
[19:29] That message on the livestream right now isn't new.
[19:29] probebly also not true
[19:29] It was posted on youtube yesterday.
[19:29] you are right
[19:29] AnonNewsOPS Anonymous Police expected to kick us out by 10 pm. 7:25 now. #sep17
00[19:29] ftpopo
[19:29] telecomunications, that is the thing
[19:29] it isn't live
[19:30] Not anymore.
[19:30] This chat is live
[19:30] There was a brief feed
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[19:30] what happened after those revolutions though? in the 1848 european revolution hardly any change was noticed for the people who actually took part, but there have been lasting changes since, although not all positive...
[19:30] of two people cleaning something up.
00[19:30] Stop complaining it isnt live.  everyone cant read it says "NYC earlier toda"
[19:30] alex-pilosoft: so basically protesting is cool until it affects your gear? fyi, it'd affect -my- gear too.
[19:30] Is Comedy Central covering this?
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[19:30] out of the park, into the streets?
[19:30] AnonNewsOPS Anonymous If u won't provoke incoming riot cops, leave private property, use public sidewalks or something like taht #takewallstreet #udor
[19:30] onlooker_: when did i say protesting is cool?
[19:30] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s this one a bit confused but it's going...
[19:30] http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23generalassembly
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[19:31] how many people have showed up so far?
[19:31] 12
[19:31] i think this whole thing is the dumbest idea since oprah got trolled by anonymous
[19:31] She is there right as we speak....you can follow here: http://twitter.com/#!/AyeshaKazmi
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[19:32] http://twitter.com/#!/SabzBrach
[19:32] HERE THEY COME
00[19:32] SOmeone should just go out of thier way and flash the cops
[19:32] DISCLAIMER: My blog is financed by Google Ads.
[19:32] are there street medics present?
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[19:32] trying to access live feeds from android, any ideask?
[19:32] my blog is financed by crack cocaine
[19:32] well take the french revolution of 1789, what happened afterwards. in the b eginning the middle trading officer classes were united with the working class and peasants, but afterwards pushed for their interests in a rationalising nation state promoting capitalism
[19:32] no-afk policy? pfft
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[19:32] APOYO TOTAL A LOS OCUPANTES!!!
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[19:32] i just wish someone would explain to me what they are trying to get out of doing this
[19:33] YA ERA HORA QUE DESPERTARAN
[19:33] America devrait être plus comme la France
[19:33] i guess people should be kicked off wall st if they aren't chanting at least every ten minutes
[19:33] ANON: If u won't provoke incoming riot cops, leave private property, use public sidewalks or something like taht
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[19:33] russian revolution is a long story but that turned into something very ugly indeed, id call it a class based bureacracy dictatorship, a la state capitalist theory
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[19:33] LESS OPINIONS MORE LIVE NEWS
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[19:33] WHAT'S HAPPENING???
[19:33] there isn't much news
[19:33] it takes a lot to wake a sleeping giant
[19:33] Good Luck America
[19:33] matty - they are trying to have some accountability toward the people who gamble away our financial future
[19:33] were all eagerly awaiting news
[19:33] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
[19:33] vivan los pueblos libres del mundo
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[19:34] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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[19:34] pero cuando despiertan ya no duermen!!
[19:34] I only buy socially responsible coffee. But is there socially responsible porn?
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[19:34] I think the major push is to get the top richest 1% of the population to stop getting handouts and to have taxes more in line with everyone else
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[19:34] Abolish capitalism 
[19:34] viva america solcialista!!
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[19:34] MK_: don't buy stuff made in east asia and you're probably fine.
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[19:35] over 9000
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[19:35] So what happened to occupy wall street?
[19:35] these people need megaphones, but that repeating thing, is a pretty good idea
[19:35] Viva Fidel Viva Chavez Viva Evo Viva Rafael, EEUU estamos con uds
[19:35] That's what I've picked up from the website. But, from the little coverage I've seen individual protesters aren't articulating their view well
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[19:35] go new york!from spain we are suporting you!
[19:35] where are they going to go to the bathroom?
[19:35] Are we still in favour of a free Tibet, or is that too Lisa Simpson?
[19:35] I mean, I think they could be more clear about what they hope to achieve
[19:35] on the cops
[19:35] It's beginning to appear on mainstream news: http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/day-of-rage-protest-on-wall-street-20110917-gjw
[19:35] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
[19:35] the scale of corporate handouts however, all guaranteed profits, i think have become institutionally necessary to keep the system solvent and profitable
[19:36] matty: these are hippies, do you think they care?
[19:36] Matty__: also, hudson is only a throw away
[19:36] the rent is too damn high
[19:36] ruben: Hhahahaauahaha
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[19:36] they are really just looking for direct handouts to keep more and more financial capital making enough profits to keep from massively deflating
[19:36] where IS that dude. he should be at the protest. 
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[19:36] Is there anyone there?
[19:36] Matty__, I hope they have contacted some sympathetic shops, restaurants and public places close by. If they are organised and can find space maybe they need to make some compost loos... 
[19:36] Hundreds of protesters descend to 'Occupy Wall Street'  http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/17/technology/occupy_wall_street/
[19:36] I gave $1000 to the local social democratic party last year..
[19:37] Stop talking and vinculating the ocuppy to socialism,everyone must be freedom ,this movement its about the people against goverments and bankers,its not about flags
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[19:37] few thousand
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[19:37] ... Now they are the second party of Canada. I made it happen
[19:37] how many are there?
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[19:37] socialism is not a flag, socialism is a way of life
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[19:37] I think the livestream is down -- what's happenning htere now?
[19:37] Really a few thousand???
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[19:37] 9000
[19:38] Anyone here actually there?
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[19:38] frankly, if hippies demanded to legalize marijuana, this could have been a successful protest
[19:38] No way really?
[19:38] Hm...
[19:38] hope it's a nice day tomorrow and people get inspired
[19:38] need info in facebook,pics ,info minute by minute
[19:38] I could get behing legalizing. If I lived in New York. :P
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[19:38] Is anyone monitoring this that is actually based in Trinity Place right now?
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[19:38] Easy to forget how many immigrants NYC has
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[19:39] Going once -- any one from trinity place monitoring this right now?
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[19:39] Going twice -- anyone actually on the ground monitoring this right now?
[19:39] they say paddy wagons just showed up and are warning people to leave... will they stand? we will see
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[19:39] legalizing would be a good idea, especially to bring back hemp as a resource for clothing and construction
[19:39] Is there a twitter feed of live news?
[19:39] And thrice: Anyone actually at the site monitoring this IRC feed right now?
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[19:39] hemp is legal in canada
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[19:39] There is nothing in main stream media yet!
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[19:39] but that isn't really the point of this... 
[19:39] Its still going on...http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
[19:39] Twitter IS a live feed of news!
[19:40] Not exactly newsworth
[19:40] Mainstream media blackout - how foolish do they think we are??
[19:40] twitter is live feed
[19:40] bergen: i'm on corner of rector and wall
[19:40] well, a few articles... I saw bloomberg, al jazeera and a few others covering it a bit
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[19:40] people are protesting against wall street...big deal
[19:40] Im in spain.Its more than midnight here
[19:40] search for takewallstreet and occupywallstreet and usdor
[19:40] it happens all the time
[19:40] That occupy-u-s stream is really quite good.
[19:40] RIOT, RIOT, RIOT. Don't Don't Don't 
[19:40] Clean, with audio, and minimal trolling in the chat
[19:40] It's so pointless that you sihned on her to tell us that
[19:40] way to be useful
[19:40] :)
[19:40] *signed
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[19:41] mhm yes i did
[19:41] haha
[19:41] I'm also following that stream from spain
[19:41] i don't have much else to do
[19:41] ignore naysayers. They are paid government lackies attempting to suppress disobedience
[19:41] so i don't mind at all
[19:41] The media will be probably to cover the story if it lasts long enough
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[19:41] what's going on there, alex?
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[19:41] Heard the riot police showed up?
[19:42] The government will do everything in its power to suppress the protests
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[19:42] this might be good if they actually had something they were planning on getting from doing it
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[19:42] say to obama and the parlament YES WE CAMP
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[19:42] "paid government lackies" Please refrain from criticizing unionized employees.
[19:42] Cut off cell phones, internet. It has no morals
[19:42] Best of luck everyone!
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[19:42] I need a update
[19:42] been gone for 5 hours
[19:42] Unemployed Glasow UK, go for it guys, no violence everybody in.
[19:42] hjertebraaten: no. there are no riot police and there's no riots
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[19:42] in spain we still protesting since 5 months
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[19:42] just tourists
[19:42] whats this deal w/ the riot police?
[19:43] I see nothing wrong with "bashing" unions
[19:43] maurieban: that's why your country is going to default. when germans start protesting instead of working, they'll default too.
[19:43] Unions are part of the solution
[19:43] fuck the banks
[19:43] I'm assuming there are no riots (and hoping) - I just read on twitter that they showed up. though, don't know where exactly
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[19:43] this 'naysayer' wants to see the oligarchy taken out back, drawn, and quartered. in the traditional definition. 
[19:44] So what's up....
[19:44] the riot cops seem to be unconfirmed
[19:44] It's not fault of the majority of people the government is trying to make the US default
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[19:44] I wonder what the mainstream media will call this once they can no longer ignore it?
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[19:44] The military Kleptocracy is part of the problem
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[19:44] part of that, is pointing out failings and seeking to correct them constructively.
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[19:44] they will call us Communists, socialists - it doesn't matter. We are discontent and we have a right to be angry
[19:44] ...The USA spends more on the military than all other countries combined!
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[19:44] shiva: seriously? nobody cares what to call it, since there's no event
[19:44] first they ignore you, then they censor you...
[19:44] Yeah!
[19:44] ah come on germany has the only big export surplus in europe their tied into the whole europe mess they just came out on top relatively speaking just like goldman
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[19:45] America FTW!
[19:45] The media will sling this story once there have been enough mistakes made to serve their purpose of making this look foolish. Thankfully the only one they have gotten so far is the lack of permits.
[19:45] The media is controlled down to the lowest levels. There is no freedom of speech except that which you are granted
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[19:45] keep it up guys!! 
[19:45] Revolution. It's ON!
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[19:45] don't give in, don't go home
[19:45] once countries default and their markets vanish germany will go down the drain with southern europe
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[19:45] @ Right, because the 9% of Americans unemployed just don't want to work and would rather riot, right?
[19:45] i've seen union protests here with a whole lot more people. unions are just better in organizing themselves than hippies.
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[19:45] The internet has allowed people to realize how discontent they are and that they are not freaks or weirdos for being mad, but that they have much in common with eachother
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[19:45] pickles: p much
[19:45] I'm sorry but it's going to have to get violent.... WE MUST first try the peaceful way, thoroughly. But it's not going to work. THEY are not going down just cause 'WE DEMAND IT' 
[19:46] hello i'm french, how it spends the event ?
[19:46] Guys if you want to hear the discussion happening now: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
[19:46] Anonymous has Super Freaks  ;p
[19:46] It's not about Unions or Private sector. It's not about right or left. It's about Right and Wrong
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[19:46] so far, it's not a revolution. it's a bunch of clueless people who are justifiably pissed off, but lacking an understanding of why they're getting screwed and ideas on how to fix it. pretty depressing.
[19:46] what do we want when do we want it? NOW
[19:46] onlookerr_ seems right
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[19:46] onlooker_: hit the nail on the head
[19:46] Guest40453 has been added to the no-fly list
[19:46] VIOLENCE!!!!!!!!!
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[19:46] onlooker_: more like, people who fail at life and want to blame others.
[19:46] We will stop protesting when a government of our choosing is installed. Whether it be years or days, we will have our way
[19:46] how it spends the event?
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00[19:47] someone needs to grab the bull horns to literize the idiom
[19:47] i'm french 
[19:47] how it spends the event?
[19:47] Bonjour  :)
[19:47] CORRECTION: via  @OccupyWallSt:  Riot cops on the way.  (15 minutes ago)
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[19:47] Bonjour ;)
[19:47] What should I drink, Coke or Pepsi ?
[19:47] orange juice
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[19:47] alex-pilosoft: no, the fact is that there is an underclass in america and it is growing by leaps and bounds. poverty doesn't just magically go up because people 'fail at life.'
[19:47] water
[19:47] The problem is not just "money in politics."  It's the capitalist-imperialist system as a whole.
[19:47] water is good
00[19:47] is that us?
[19:47] NO shit riot cops.... 
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[19:48] Poverty is a conscious choice made by the powers that be. They have chosen to let us go hungry, so we will choose to cast them from their Ivory towers
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[19:48] I prefer fruits to juice ;)
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[19:48] WE MUST GET VIOLENT
[19:48] No
[19:48] WEmust not
[19:48] ...
[19:48] The entire system is morally bankrupt.
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[19:48] and you must get outta here
[19:48] that will mess it uup
[19:48] let the cops look like the bad guys
00[19:48] If it doesn't get violent nothing is going to happen
[19:48] it's far more complicated than that, roguetrader. far, far more complicated.
[19:48] Nice try "guest"
[19:48] not us
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[19:48] our non violence is one of the shields we have
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[19:49] Violence only serves to weaken the cause.
[19:49] Okabe: when the cops try to get us to leave
[19:49] Guest 40453, are you an agent-provateur?
[19:49] how many people there now?
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[19:49] let them look bad
00[19:49] omg live!!
[19:49] What exploits workers more, corn syrope or aspertame? 
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[19:49] Make Youtube videos of the protest so the world can see. The police will be mobilized against us, not in protection of us
[19:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
[19:49] Are there people there that are actually going to camp out for atleast 2 months?
[19:49] ustream - the operator of the stream has told viewers to  go to the livestream due to his phone battery being soon depleted.
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[19:50] Keep it up guys!  Can't be there with you but thanks to you all!
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[19:50] corn syrup. farming subsidies are all kinds of messed up
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[19:50] The police are paid for by private commission. They don't serve the people, they serve their masters, against the people if need be
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[19:50] 7000
[19:50] Too many people from Queens, can't make out what they are chanting
[19:50] Thanks to those of you that made it out
[19:50] also, corn syrup is gross :<
[19:50] why do you want a revolution? and what do you mean by it?
[19:50] Momo.  Its Uncle Jules
[19:50] Is co intel pro here?
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[19:50] Corn farmers are paid to destroy their crops but sell their crops anyway
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[19:50] Yo COINTELPRO GUIZ 
[19:51] WE NOE YOU ARE HERE
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[19:51] needs more bass
[19:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street <-- I wonder if writing this page would make any difference ...
[19:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointelpro
[19:51] What is this noise about solidarity rally in Wisconsin?
[19:51] ravrvs: If you can do a good job, then write that page
[19:51] @ ravrvs: certainly would
[19:51] @ravrvs, oh yes
[19:51] sweet!
[19:51] get it started
[19:51] Whether gainfully employed or struggling to survive, you and your children and you neighbors have a common enemy - corrupt government and the corrupters of it
[19:51] thank you janejana
[19:51] I need information for France, contact me cabon.jonathan.pro @ gmail.com
[19:52] I'm a frequent contributor at the Latin Wikipedia, so this will be my Latin debut
[19:52] same thing happened with tahrir, the wiki was one of the best places to get info while the occupation was ongoing
[19:52] *English debut
[19:52] :D
[19:52] where are there solidarity actions?
00[19:52] Hey there is a ustream up
00[19:52] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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[19:52] besides madison?
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[19:52] That one is going down soon.
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[19:52] What's the status down there?
[19:52] The user's battery is dying.
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[19:52] look for agent provacteurs and COINTELPRO 
[19:52] batteries suck
[19:52] The crowd is having a General Assembly
[19:52] USTREAM WILL BE GOING OFF AIR SOON BECAUSE PHONE BATTERY IS DYING
[19:52] Anyone know?
[19:52] rex 84 anyone?
[19:53] and the police have planned to force all the people out at 10pm
[19:53] http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution < THIS IS THE LIVESTREAM ONE WHICH SHOULD REMAIN ON AIR
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[19:53] You don't have to stand for a specific purpose, so long as you stand. Do not bow to man
[19:53] +++++++++++++++++++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
00[19:53] oh well the GR stream is live again so no need for ustream 
[19:53] Well I'm sitting
10[19:53] * SolitonWave bows to woman
[19:53] ;p
[19:53] Workers of The World Unite!
[19:53] could they maybe charge it at a restaurant or something nearby?
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[19:53] That's right, Doc.
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[19:54] The situation is how?
[19:54] Here is a picture of undercover cops: http://t.co/nWqLD7Ci
[19:54] THIS GIVES ME SOOOO MUCH HOPE 
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[19:54] REX 84
[19:54] I just wanted to log in to let you all know that you are part of the problem, not the solution. 
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[19:54] uh huh
[19:54] New York is partially powered by Quebec's socialized power company Hydro Quebec. So OK to charge your cell phone in NYC
[19:54] heehee
[19:54]                                    ++++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++
[19:54] <@agnosticnixie> youareallturds - orly
[19:54] well done, from Ureland
[19:55] In that case, I am proud to be a part of the problem
[19:55] <@agnosticnixie> well I am absolutely graceful for this
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[19:55] Alabama is with you
[19:55] So whats going on with this? 
[19:55] <@agnosticnixie> anything to say or do you just plan to troll?
[19:55] Protest government corruption at all levels. Hold them to the same standards they have held us to
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[19:55]                                             +++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++
[19:55] youareallturds, I know that being a good shill for Goldman Sachs is the most important thing in your life, but some of us have different priorities.
00[19:55] Wall street dudes probably already went home and are bathing in thier jaccuzis
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[19:55] People standing up to power is definitely not the problem
[19:55] French with you 
[19:56] How many people are curently occupying wall st
[19:56] 12
[19:56] What?!? Goldman Sachs pays?
[19:56] Very cleaver.
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[19:56] REX 84
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[19:56] <@agnosticnixie> clever
[19:56]                                                                                                         +++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++
[19:56] I bet you all voted for Obama. Thanks for the spell check!
[19:56] In 2007, Goldman Sachs paid $14million in taxes after collecting $54billion in revenue
[19:56] <@agnosticnixie> as I doubt you were hit with a butcher's knife
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[19:56] Don't be part of the solution, be part of the problem
[19:56] There hasn't been an official count as far as I know. Been hearing everything from 'hundreds' to almost 10,000 since i joined the chat
[19:56] I voted for Adolf Hitler  ;p~
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[19:56] can anyone in NY update us on the situation?
[19:57] hello
[19:57]                     +++             HAWAII             IS              WITH           U           +++++
[19:57] <@agnosticnixie> I don't vote
[19:57] Please stop using Youtube. Encourage socialism and use the French DailyMotion
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[19:57] because voting totally matters
[19:57] Greetings and well met fellow adventurers! Let's tally forth and save the princess from the dreaded dinosaur king!
00[19:57] They are doing a sign a long together in the dark right now
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[19:57] DailyMotion is financed in part by the French government
[19:57] according to the live stream estimate 1000
[19:57] I'm not Obama fan, youareallturds.  BOTH corrupt parties and their politicians are attacking the people.
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[19:57] Voting brought us Obama and, gulp....BUSH. Get real. Get a job. You are all owed nothing.
[19:57] <@agnosticnixie> MK_ - 12 is your age, right?
[19:57] REX 84
[19:57] Dailymotion n'est pas censuré, vive la freance et sa liberté, les êtat-unie doivent avoir aussi cette liberté, la france derrière vous ! from france
[19:57] " because voting totally matters" ?
[19:57] -----------------------------------------How long do you think people will stay?
[19:57] yourealturd is a paid government thug
[19:58] <@agnosticnixie> youareallturds - you seem to be reading from a script
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[19:58] Whoever incharge... he will always follow orders
[19:58] "paid gov't thug". Wow. 
[19:58] <@agnosticnixie> as you are not answering to anything anyone said
[19:58] you are all turds needs to go away
[19:58] I think "voting totally matters" is sarcasm
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[19:58] So dudes, let's load up google maps and look for entitlements err mansions of the top1%
[19:58] Do not get angry on stuff other than the focus
[19:58] Obama sucks.  We know that.  Both ruling class parties are bought and paid for by the banksters.
[19:58]                                                                 LOVE IS IN THE AIR      +++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++
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[19:58] a flame war can distrupt the unity
[19:58] REX 84
[19:58] If we are socialist, we should be pro government
[19:58] I am. You all have fun tonight...ON SATURDAY...wallowing in your self-pity. Misery loves (and needs) company.
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[19:59] Do not start a flame ware
[19:59] Stratagemz - I agree totally
[19:59] <@agnosticnixie> we're not wallowing
[19:59] Get the money out of politics now!
[19:59] <@agnosticnixie> in fact it's very festive
[19:59] turds is probably a tea party member
[19:59] We've been turn against eachother like dogs - but the real enemy is above us, not by our side
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[19:59] a flame war will divide us and divided we fall
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[19:59] Just wanted to chime in and say that I wish that I could be in New York tonight. You're doing Good Things, with intentional caps.
[19:59] We've been turn against eachother like dogs - but the real enemy is above us, not by our side
[19:59] +1000
[19:59]                        LOVE  4        U                   +++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++
[19:59] ````````````````````````````anybody even going to stay a month?
[19:59] Let the revolution begin here
[19:59] always the same trick and always working
[19:59] Kisses. 
[19:59] Heh, he is here with us on a Saturday night.
[19:59] The people we are fighting against today want to divide and conquer the 99%
[19:59] I'm buying a ticket to New York today. One way flight
[19:59] <@agnosticnixie> roguetrader - http://i.imgur.com/3etXW.jpg ;)
[20:00] REX 84
[20:00] youareallturds, I agree that people aren't owed much. That's why I'm protesting, the rich in this country are rich because they get undeserved tax breaks and handouts.
[20:00] Money out of politics isn't the only problem.  The problem is with the entire capitalist-imperialist system that exploits and bombs people all around the world for profit.
[20:00] I kiss, but I will not kiss a delilberate troll
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[20:00] <@agnosticnixie> so if people aren't owed anything
[20:00] yadida That is the ultimate insult, please use with care. 
00[20:00] WE ARE THE 99%
[20:00]                                              LOVE  4        U                   +++ HAWAII             IS              WITH           U  +++++
[20:00] we are being lied to, seduced, we are modern slaves, this has to change, we need to wake uppppppppppppp
[20:00] <@agnosticnixie> why do bosses think they're owed so much?
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[20:00] Spark's got the right idea
[20:00] <@agnosticnixie> why do bosses think they're owed more wealth than the rest of the nation combined?
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[20:00] REX 84
[20:00] <@agnosticnixie> that said, I'll give up
[20:00] <@agnosticnixie> weak trolling
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[20:00] <@agnosticnixie> merely amuses me
[20:00] Spark  less money in politics = less bombs
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[20:01] focus
[20:01] They'll spout something about how it takes talent to trick 99 out of 100 peeps to do their bidding for pittance.
[20:01] Being called a "tea party member" is like being called a cu*nt for a social democrat 
[20:01] on the target
[20:01] REX 84
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[20:01] Hth, being called a democrat should be about as bad these days. V:
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[20:01] Can anyone inform a poor guy from Greece how many people are out there right now?
[20:01] beware of sock monkeys
[20:01] how many people participated today? Is anyone sending out pics to alternative media? 
[20:01] or sock puppets
00[20:01] 1000 people are out there
[20:02] The majority of the Democratic party has become center right or farther
[20:02] <@agnosticnixie> phlogiston4lyfe - no, see, the mainstream parties are respectable
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[20:02] <@agnosticnixie> they are all there is
[20:02] If more of you voted, old angry rich people wouldn't control the country
[20:02] sock puppet are trolls that pretend to be 2 person arguing
[20:02] <@agnosticnixie> now do not look away
[20:02] Doc, the military-industrial complex will operate whether or not money is in politics or not.  Look at Britain.  Money is much less of a factor there and yet the ruling class joins forces with the American Empire to exploit and bomb people all over the world.
[20:02] REX 84
[20:02] this is about the elite seeking to control body, spirit, and mind.  Controls on what we put in our bodies, controls on where we put our bodies, controls on religions.  
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[20:02] Eh. The democrats aren't as reprehensible, but they're still in the pockets of capitalism.
[20:02] very true spark
[20:03] The acoustics of Wall Street suck
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[20:03] voting for people is a joke
[20:03] Not bad for the Capital city of capitalism (no offense)
[20:03] Its not that rich people are taking our money, it is that we are GIVING it to them
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[20:03] Are there any strategies in place on the ground to prevent agent provocateurs from infiltrating?
[20:03] The issue is this SYSTEM.
[20:03] direct democracy is voting for actions
[20:03] REX 84
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[20:03] <@agnosticnixie> we have a few people who know how to spot them from experience
[20:03] not just put this person or that person in charge
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[20:03] that happens next in the coming days? Jonatan de France, French national news channel (bfmtv)
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[20:03] Again, Spark's got it right.
[20:03] Vote for the parties Wall St pays for...? why?
[20:03] <@agnosticnixie> I think the only reason the dems don't seem so bad is that they're trying to keep getting money from decidedly left wing groups who are afraid to leave the establishment
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[20:04] The democrats are the establishment.
[20:04] So, what are our plans after capitalism is defeated?
[20:04] Remember, Black people were responsible for the Vancouver riots (sarcasm)
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[20:04] They are just as wrapped up in greed as anyone else.
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[20:04] REX 84
[20:04] bonus season nearly here again.....
[20:04] PARTY!!!
[20:04] Social Democracy Now.  Out with Obama. Out with the Tea Party Out with them all
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[20:05] The Dems play the good cop to the Republicans bad cop.  They're both corrupt to their core.  The Dems just try to make it APPEAR AS IF they represent the people when all they represent are themselves and the capitalists.
[20:05] Netflix is socialism for movies
[20:05] Just please keep it lit young people.  We need you!
[20:05] Third Universal Theory / Green theory is direct democracy
[20:05] who all is via mobile on wall street right at the moment
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[20:05] quit
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[20:05] I keep saying this, but Spark is The Best.
[20:05] Will we refocus on agriculture and sustainable industries? What laws will we force on others?
[20:05] thanks, phlog
[20:06] REX 84
[20:06] Just trying to get people to see the big picture.
[20:06] how's it going around Wall St. right now?  Any of you guys there right now?
[20:06] Just stay on the streets please.
[20:06] each community should be able to guide their path and rules as best for them
[20:06] People who are against democracy, please raise your hand
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[20:06] this movement needs at least 1 million people to do some harm to the capitalist propaganda
[20:06] Wat.
[20:07] against representative democracy - fir direct democracy
[20:07] themacg33k why'd you bring me here/
[20:07] Luxey: I didn't bring you here
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[20:07] <@jart> getting ready to march on wall street, then marching back to sleep
[20:07] We don't have democracy right now, we have a representative republic.
[20:07] REX 84
[20:07] Luxey: this is the discussion room for Twitter/#occupywallstreet
[20:07] agrarian reform!
[20:07] The more the better, Nastra
[20:07] Oh.
[20:07] Nastra, any ideas on how to get our numbers up to 1 mil.?
[20:07] exactly
[20:07] You totally spammed the link.
[20:07] so I clicked.
[20:07] bottom99: a democratic republic
[20:07] <@jart> what we have is corporatocracy
[20:07] Luxey: lol.
[20:07]  It doesn't take milllions
[20:07] we don't have a republic, we have a banana republc
[20:07] jart: are you actually there
[20:07] it takes one
[20:07] <@jart> plutocracy
[20:07] I have no idea
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[20:07] but somehow we have to do it!
[20:07] what we have is not democracy - it is a sham
[20:07] @jart has it right
[20:07] Senor - By getting people to see that the two main parties are both equally shitty.
[20:07] Ruben: lol.
[20:07] Ruben: You sir, are almost a sandwich
[20:08] Ruben: Just add another e.
[20:08] Ruben: are you Dave Ruben? :D
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[20:08] REX 84
[20:08] I was thinking free pizza and job recruiters might work :P
[20:08] Remember that time when Obama used extrajudicial political assassinations?
[20:08] Like, a lot?
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[20:08] That was great.
[20:08] Hope ron paul wins ...
[20:08] Dave's not here man,
[20:08] For things to change, it is not enough simply to show or block the streets but to set fire to the premises, friendly jonathan
[20:08] seems the unemployed are the only ones with the time and heart to protest :
[20:08] For things to change, it is not enough simply to show or block the streets but to set fire to the premises, friendly jonathan
[20:08] For things to change, it is not enough simply to show or block the streets but to set fire to the premises, friendly jonathan
[20:08] For things to change, it is not enough simply to show or block the streets but to set fire to the premises, friendly jonathan
[20:08] For things to change, it is not enough simply to show or block the streets but to set fire to the premises, friendly jonathan
[20:08] For things to change, it is not enough simply to show or block the streets but to set fire to the premises, friendly jonathan
[20:08] REX 84
[20:08] Uggggg, Ron Paul
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[20:08] THERE IS NO DIRECT DEMOCRACY. ITS JUST PLAIN "DEMOCRACY". Dont be a fool,please. By adding this "direct" before democracy is like admitting that now its a democracy too. When oligarchy is what really is atm.
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[20:09] <@agnosticnixie> zzio - no flooding, this is the last warning
[20:09] corporatocracy
[20:09] Every major candidate has about 20% okay positions on stuff.
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[20:09] Ron Paul just has a completely different 20% than most of them
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[20:09] sorry i have a bug 
[20:09] You have to admit, it would be fun to see R. Paul run against Obama
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[20:09] corporatocracy sounds good too.. And debtocracy also
[20:09] It would be fun from an accelerationist perspective
[20:09] setting fire to the premise will not help, setting brushfires in the mind of men.. that will
[20:09] so people are staying the night?
00[20:09] Watch someone get raped tonight.
[20:10] I wish the dems would put forth another candidate.
[20:10] <@agnosticnixie> yeah but he's a lot like Buchanan
[20:10] Let's run this shit into the groundddddd
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[20:10] REX 84
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[20:10] what the heck is rex 84?
[20:10] <@agnosticnixie> his policies on most things are stuff the gop will nod at in agreement but he's got some skeletons they don't want
[20:10] He's the only one that is not sucking up to bilderberg
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[20:10] google it
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[20:10] REX 84, the agenda to end america
[20:10] its on the way
[20:10] <@agnosticnixie> Buchanan's was that he was a neonazi, Ron Paul is his anti-militarism :p
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[20:10] The plan is to stay for a month, but someone said police are going to start removing protesters around 10pm 
[20:10] Thank you phlogiston4lyfe , I know a new word now
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[20:11] Ha ha, no problem.
[20:11] Ask yourself, how come it's ok for the capitalist to take the commodity that you made, sell it, give you only a part of it and then pocket the rest?
[20:11] <@agnosticnixie> appliantologist - are you a reader of Alex Jones?
[20:11] Accelerationism is a fun philosophy, in a nihilistic sense, at least.
[20:11] how about a toggle switch stratagy
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[20:11] <@agnosticnixie> ASingleSpark - CREATIVE CAPITALIST HEROES!!!
[20:11] I read everything...
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[20:11] It would be a quick way to get things changed, at least. V;
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[20:11] police remove 1 and 2-10 replace that one
[20:11] Alex jones is copy and paste from mostly other sources
[20:11] Stay on the street but don't resist the cops.  Ghandi
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[20:11] how many people are there atm?
[20:12] No, resist the cops if they try removing you
[20:12] 1000+
[20:12] Capitalist parasites.  The workers deserve all the fruits of their labor.
[20:12] ok then
[20:12] A banana republic is a commercial enterprise for profit by collusion between the State and favoured monopolies, whereby the profits derived from private exploitation of public lands is private property, and the debts incurred are public responsibility. Such an imbalanced economy reduces the national currency to devalued paper-money, hence, the country is ineligible for international development credit and remains limited by the une
[20:12] So does anyone want to tell me what you're trying to achieve?
[20:12] REX 84
[20:12] Anybody using EARTHCAM know which one to pick?
[20:12] if you have to ask..................
[20:12] yeah rex 84, bad news
[20:12] God, as beautiful as an egypt-style revolt against the police would be, tma, the protesters would be utterly slaughtered here.
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[20:12] agenda 21
[20:12] lol
[20:12] lol if you think anything else
[20:12] I'd really like it if we made a shanty town in Wallstreet. Earthbags to hide behind once the man starts shooting bullets
[20:12] Kleptocracy, government by thieves, features influential government employees exploiting their posts for personal gain (embezzlement, fraud, bribery, etc.), with the resultant deficit repaid by the native working people who “earn money”, rather than “make money”. Because of foreign (corporate) manipulation, the government is unaccountable to its nation, the country’s private sector–public sector corruption operates the 
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[20:13] no violenc, just walk in the area and regroup when possible
[20:13] The capitalist is simply an interloper between the actual producers of all the value in society, the workers.
[20:13] yes indeed @appliantologist
[20:13] Raise your hand if you disagree with Raun Paul on the military (yes I know you disagree with everything else he says)
[20:13] Nnnnnnnope.
[20:13] <@jart> please don't talk about ron paul
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[20:13] I'm organizing a fossil fuel funeral and big freeze for 350.org in Northampton mass next saturday. 
00[20:13] Has everyone seen "The Inside job"?
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[20:13] ron paul is right on
[20:13] His wanting to cut back on that kind of stuff is one of his two or three non-terrible opinions.
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[20:13] It is ridiculous to bring up ron paul here pal
[20:14] That and a not quite so terrible drug policy. 
[20:14] Agreed.
[20:14] what't the inside job? a movie about 911 I assume. 
[20:14] fuck the Mil Indust, complex
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[20:14] The capitalist contributes nothing.  He's a leach, who because he owns the means of production, simply siphons of the labor of the workers.
[20:14] But other than that, he's just as bad, if not worse than, anyone else
[20:14] ^
[20:14] I should incorporate Anonymous
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[20:14] For those that wonder: "What could be the sollution?" .. just see this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
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[20:14] Inside job is an excellent Frontline Doc about Wall Street
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[20:15] I wonder who gave the order to the media to not broadcast this
[20:15] NYPD supposedly evacuating us in 5mins
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[20:15] steal a loaf of bread go to jail, steal billions, and you can buy treasury bonds cheap
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[20:15] I heard riot police are headed to Wall St. Can anyone confirm this?
[20:15] Literally everyone, probably, GJK.
[20:15] riot police are gay
[20:15] they got all dressed up they cant wait to beat down
[20:15] ZEITGEIST is ok for someone who is just waking up. But after a few more thoughts 
[20:15] what time is it there?
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[20:15] it sucks
[20:15] Even the "far left" media in the us are terrible people
[20:15] riot police are gay for violence :P
[20:15] How many feds in this chat room?
[20:15]       >>>>                            H A W A I I            IS    WITH     U 
[20:16] or retarded,,.. or fake, whatever is politically correct
[20:16] @xyz: that has been rumored for some time
[20:16] REX 84
[20:16] Appliantologist, don't be so counterrevolutionary
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[20:16] I bet two or three people here are feds...
[20:16] V:
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[20:16] they like boots. pretty gay
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[20:16] What's the latest?
[20:16] The capitalist has no legitimate claim on the means of production.  He should be expropriated and the means of production should be placed in the hands of people collectively.
[20:16] Do not disintegrate
[20:16] like bear homo guys..
[20:16] <--- pretty gay :p
[20:16] you are being provoked
[20:16] huh
[20:16] yeah, i am. V;
[20:16] ASingleSpark: What does expropriated mean?
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[20:16] :o
[20:16]                         >>>>                            H A W A I I            IS    WITH     U 
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[20:17] It's roid eating gay cops that worry me,
[20:17] To take away.
[20:17] Isn't it a bad idea to spilt up? If hey only take a small group to see their response, it's not going o be the same as the whole group going. The point of seeing how they respond will not be the same.
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[20:17] the run of the mill gay cops is ok i guess.
[20:17] Riot police are fake and gay.
[20:17] But for reals, describing riot cops as gay is an insult to gays.
[20:17] http://twitpic.com/6mgon3
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[20:17] Check out Green charter - a radical approach to Democracy: It was stated in this book that the “only means of people’s democracy are the people’s congresses”.  People must represent themselves in the decision-making forums such as Libya’s Basic People’s Conferences. In the Jamahiriya (meaning “state of the masses”), the entire population is divided into people’s congresses that elect people’s committees, which
[20:17] getting ready
[20:17] Yeah, gays will at least use lube
[20:17] In this case, takeing away the capitalist illegitimate claim on the means of production.
[20:17] xyzqwa Showing your age with that use of the work gay
[20:17] I mean gay as in "happy" for violence 
[20:17] Gays are an insult to happy people
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[20:17] i feed bad for all those about too get beat down
[20:17] yeah sorry, fuck you can't say anything about stuff anymore, without offending someone, that's gay
[20:18] Thanks ASingleSpark.
[20:18] NYPD is a pretty awful, abusive outfit. I hope the protesters don't get hurt, but...
[20:18] Capitalism sucks...
[20:18] that is pretty gay, in the sucks alot way
[20:18] yeah
[20:18] Calling something gay makes you sound gay.
[20:18] :p
[20:18] Why can't I say gay. That's really gay bro.
00[20:18] Stop talkign about gay
[20:18] Gayer than gay.
[20:18] calling something gay makes you sound retarded
[20:18] censorship is gay
[20:18] people are going too get hurt
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[20:18] What, you mean gay?
[20:18] We should have an online poll on what they should do. I bet more people are watching online than the amount of people there
[20:18]  IS THIS A GAY CHAT ROOM OR OCCUPY WALL STREET DONT GET DISTRACTED
[20:18] Sophisticated social democrats say say lame, not gay
[20:18] It is the WORKERS who make all the products and services in those stores we go to!  
[20:18] censorship is gay and retarded, probably fake too
[20:18] lol, we all seem to agree the use of the word gay is fun at least
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[20:19] I still say that describing bad things as "gay" is shitty because it associates homosexuality with whatever thing you're trying to call bad. Just call the thing shitty. That said, I don't give a shit about what you say, and censorship is shitty too.
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[20:19] The capitalist simply steals from the workers a part of the value they create!
[20:19] Man, this chat room is really going in the right direction
[20:19] I am waiting for a gay date, j/k
[20:19]                         >>>>                            H A W A I I            IS    WITH     U  ++++++++      PEACE
[20:19] anyway, whats the Sunday plan?
[20:19] [20:18] I still say that describing bad things as "gay" is shitty because it associates homosexuality with whatever thing you're trying to call bad. Just call the thing shitty. That said, I don't give a shit about what you say, and censorship is shitty too.
[20:19] Hey we are talking baout riot police,...
[20:19] ^^^
[20:19] Why isn't there decent camera work on the upstream Video of this action?That seems weird for a bunch of techno people? I wonder if it's undercover camera people purposely doing a terrible job. I don't understand. 
[20:19] See that?
[20:19] show up, go with flow?
[20:19] Makes perfect sense.
[20:19] they are here
[20:19] saying they are gy,.. we're on topic
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[20:19] The gays are right here with us getting screwed over by the capitalists, hth
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[20:20] Yeah, LOVE, we get it.
[20:20] Capitalism steals from the majority and gives to the few... regulation can help it but it will not stop it
[20:20] lol
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[20:20] Stop saying gay you fags.
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[20:20] Using the word gay is lame
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[20:20] People need to learn to have plenty of spare batteries
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[20:20] How you you descrive riot cops?
[20:20] gay straight green black red purple or white  we are all being screwed by wall street
[20:20] Say whatever you want, how you want, but if it's stupid or offensive people's opinions will drop accordingly. ;)
[20:20] ^^
[20:20] <@jart> no oppressive language
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[20:20] riot cops are probably best addressed and pretty homo..
[20:20] Personally I think that the explicitly anti-capitalist rhetoric should be toned down to going against the greed and excesses/crimes of wall street in order to appeal to a greater number of people
[20:20]              OK BYE NO LOVEOR OCCUPY WALL STRETT HERE  HERE JUST              BS
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[20:21] <@agnosticnixie> appliantologist - volunteers for beating the shit out of youth
[20:21] Steal some batteries from your girlfriend if you have to
[20:21] <@agnosticnixie> I prefer not to describe riot cops
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[20:21] Watching the Pot Republic on the PBS Frontline site
[20:21] Ask yourself, what does the capitalist actually DO?  Is he out there on the assembly line or at the cash register doing the work?!  No, he's in the back stealing from your work.
[20:21] riot cops == CPers
[20:21] you will hear the Long Range Acoustic device on the live steam soon
[20:21] RadSousa- agreed. 
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[20:21] You know they get to dress up like little soldiers,, then the roids kick in,.. lots of locker rooms time.. you know, pretty gay being a riot cop.
[20:21] How do you ignore people who are obviously being inflammatory? Like using the word gay as a derogatory term. It seems to degrade this chat. 
[20:22] RadSousa, while that would get a few more people on "our side", without knowing what is actually going to help the world, they won't be able to do anything useful.
[20:22] unlawful gathering
[20:22] My car is gay
[20:22] no sound on anonops livestream again...
[20:22] REX 84
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[20:22] <@jart> jill: you can help alert us
[20:22] jill That is how under 25 folk talk
[20:22] <@jart> so we can kick them
[20:22] Anti-Capitalists shouldn't hide their agenda but instead embrace it, share it and fight for it. Most anti-capitalists are against evil greed like the majority anyways... the only reason people hate them is because of propaganda
[20:22] Long Range Acoustic device on the way
[20:22] MK, I'm 42, I just don't live in the us.
00[20:22] I want something to happen...
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[20:22] So where did the figure 20,000 come from? 
[20:22] @phlogiston4lyfe: You are correct in the long-run, but short term we want people to join up
[20:22] [19:22] Anti-Capitalists shouldn't hide their agenda but instead embrace it, share it and fight for it. Most anti-capitalists are against evil greed like the majority anyways... the only reason people hate them is because of propaganda
[20:22] hey, I'm over 25 and talk like that... I think I helped teach the kids to talk like that :P
[20:23] I am a pro-decency Capitalist
[20:23] loving a lr acoustic device...
[20:23] <@jart> we will not tolerate trolls or oppressive/homophobic/sexist/etc. language
[20:23] NSF001 > SMASHTHESTATE
[20:23] Absolutely, Zantarian.
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[20:23] wHAT
[20:23] HOW DID YOU GET THAT
[20:23] my name is robert paulson
[20:23] My injokes are augmented
[20:23] Long Range Acoustic device on the way
[20:23] website please ?
[20:23] HOW DO I CHANGE MY PASSWORD 
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[20:23] Exactly but the propaganda has nonetheless marginalized our views and we need to find a way to skirt that ignorance
[20:23] lol
[20:23] there was 7,500 at last count...
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[20:23] SolitonWave, are you a worker?  If so, why do you think the capitalist has the right to steal part of your labor from you?
[20:23] my name is robert paulson
[20:23] Don't skirt the ignorance
[20:24] No such thing as pro decency capitalism
[20:24] Take it on, and destroy it
[20:24] and I am not politically correct,. what's wrong with being homophobic?  I don't like gay sex and stuff like that,,, why should I have to be sensitive? that's lame.
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[20:24] That's right, mclean
[20:24] I don't see many people trolling, I see a bunch of passionate and interested people who can't find much focus, so we revert to gay jokes until someone says something of substance
[20:24] ASingleSpark: I think Capitalism has a place in a good world
[20:24] I mean we need a means to skirt the propaganda not the ignorance
[20:24] Game theory if OK. Tax breaks for the rich, not so much
[20:24] If we don't dismantle all of the bullshit, everyone will continue being blinded by propaganda
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[20:24] REX 84
[20:24] Hiding your anti-capitalist views will not make people accept anti-capitalist views! The only way to stop ignorance is share knowledge.
[20:24] Greed has no place in a good world
[20:24] I don't like gays really... 
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[20:24] ***is***
[20:24] something of substance...where's the promised acoustics on livestream?
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[20:25] Capitalism is the most fundamental reason why we don't have a good world!
[20:25] No one gives a shit, appliantologist.
[20:25] nbobody should try to make me like gays... sorry
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[20:25] exactly...
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[20:25] It is a system BASED ON THE THEFT OF LABOR!
[20:25] Capitalism is the most fundamental reason why we don't have a good world!
[20:25] Capitalism is the most fundamental reason why we don't have a good world!
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[20:25] Whats happening at the protest?
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[20:25] rm -rf evil*
[20:25] sorry...double post
[20:25] What I am saying is that when I share my views with people I never use the term anti-capitalist, communist etc. because these are words which immediately shut off some peoples minds
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[20:25] got it...
[20:25] Good luck to you all from The Hague. Bread and Roses!
00[20:25] oh no..
[20:25] there are ways to creatively explain the view without causing this
[20:25] what solution are the protestors in favor of?
[20:25] red  then open their minds
[20:25] Use "social democracy"
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00[20:26] live stream lost?
[20:26] Communism is just another form of dictatorship
[20:26] what I really feel is the things people have created are controlling us instead of being tools to help us.... this is what needs to change, imo... we need to take back control from our institutions
[20:26] Long Range Acoustic device on the way
[20:26] SolitonWave agreed
[20:26] yeah all the ani capitalists are actually anto globalists, not like they refer to capitalism, they have a problem with corporatism
[20:26] What is happening at the protest?
[20:26] Soliton, communism is an economic system.
00[20:26] communism is sharing your toys..
[20:26] Communism is anti state SolitonWave! Read up on it.
[20:26] I'm a pretty moderate person, I think, and the really anti-capitalism opinions aren't offensive to me. It's not outright hateful like so much of the much louder Republican/Tea Party rhetoric everywhere these days.
[20:26] <@jart> RadSousa: when having one-on-one conversations you're right, it's a good idea to not have them put up their defenses
[20:26] If the word anticapitalist turns you off your on the wrong side of history anyway so you should just hurry up and get the hell off the planet
[20:26] At the same time, Rad, if you don't use those terms, people who could easily be turned further to the left won't get the information that they could use.
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[20:26] nobody seems to run washington or wall st.  the people "in charge" are just easily replaceable fall guys
[20:26] No.  The actual definition of communism, SolitonWave, is a stateless, classless society...the very opposite of dictatorship.
[20:26] are there any other live feeds running?
[20:26] have protestors decided on their single demand? what is it?
[20:26] Some of the richest people in the world are Communist
[20:26] right communism is simply an economic system but for most people it is synonymous with state repression ala the soviets etc.
[20:27] You shoudl be anti - coporatism, not capitalism...
[20:27] So here's an idea. Maybe we shouldn't sweat whether or not we're going to be anti or pro capitalist. 
[20:27] We've all got different ideas. 
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[20:27] <@agnosticnixie> appliantologist - what's the difference
[20:27] If I wasn't exposed to a bunch of people who are to the left of Stalin, I would probably still consider myself a Democrat and think that everything was pretty okay in America
[20:27] Instead of engaging in assisted intellectual masturbation, maybe someone could tell me what is going on at the protest right now...
[20:27] what do you guys think about the venus project?
[20:27] But we're going to be there because we're pissed.
[20:27] " Communism is just another form of dictatorship" but not nearly as good at it as Capitalist Dictatorship
[20:27] <@agnosticnixie> please explain
[20:27] communism was NEVER implemented on Earth yet. Those that declared themselves as communist in reality they were not.
[20:27] I love these tree huggers that screeam capitalism sucks, then buy shit from china in wallmart ...
[20:27] <@agnosticnixie> again
[20:27] Beware of people who want to take your vote away in the name of comunism
[20:27] <@jart> Jefferson: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
[20:27] What the hell are you talking about, Soliton?
[20:27] stateless communism = anarcho-syndicalism
[20:27] Are you referring to the Chinese?
[20:27] Why do so many people cling to the American propaganda with it's dogma that the USSR was actually Communist? THEY WERE NOT! Same with China, cuba, vietnam etc.
[20:27] They're not really, uh, communist.
[20:27] At all.
[20:27] No...capitalism is the fundamental issue.  We MUST face this reality soberly or we'll never be able to create the kind world that is fit for human beings.
[20:27] I think the livestream just went un-live
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[20:27] Yeah, what Zantarian is saying.
[20:28] hey
[20:28] <@jart> capitalism must go
[20:28] <@agnosticnixie> appliantologist - in case you missed it, most things in the world are done by capitalists because face it, for now there are only two non capitalist countries left in the entire
[20:28] <@agnosticnixie> goddamn
[20:28] <@agnosticnixie> fucking
[20:28] <@agnosticnixie> world
[20:28] I think that the live stream is back.
[20:28] Resourced base economy
[20:28] Which countries, agnisticnixie?
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[20:28] have protestors decided on their single demand? what is it?
[20:28] "Communism is good in theory" (Homer Simpson)
[20:28] <@agnosticnixie> Cuba and Laos :p
[20:28] Thank you!
[20:28] what's it like to deny scarcity
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[20:28] you know here in chile they call us comunists too when we say something that doesn't go with capitalism... but thats just not true
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[20:28] phlogiston4lyfe: I am commenting on Communists in the soviet union
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14[20:33] 15[ 1515ZantarianMaster15] 15Another common misinterpretation I'd like to share... Anarchy is not necessarily without structure! esp. left wing anarchy. It is only opposed to hierarchical oppression / repression but not organization!
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14[20:33] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 millions during the colonization of the Americas
14[20:33] 14[125Senor14]6 what are people doing there now? I read everyone is meeting at a nearby church?
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14[20:33] 14[125qwery3214]6 has there been any progress on deciding a single demand?
14[20:33] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Thank you, agnostic. Hundreds of millions have been murdered on the alter of capitalist profits.
14[20:33] 14[125MK_14]6 So anarchists are Ron Paul supporters?
14[20:33] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 No
14[20:33] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 ha ha ha, what
14[20:33] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 There is a church at one end of Wall Street
14[20:33] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 I know someone who's read his diary and Stalin sounds like a tragic monster; he hated himself, knew he was evil, swore he'd stop drowning russia in blood… and never changed
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14[20:33] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 pfffft
14[20:33] 14[125shomon14]6 they were shouting "I propose" and the crowd would repeat it... briliant
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14[20:33] 14[125janejana14]6 lol Ron Paul anarchist
14[20:33] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 MK_ - Ron Paul believes in the state
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14[20:33] 14[125poo-brain14]6 they are trying not to get jailed
14[20:33] 14[125quadima14]6 thousands are dieing daily
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14[20:33] 14[125quadima14]6 right now as we chat
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14[20:33] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 maybe anarcho-capitalists and fuck those guys
14[20:33] 14[125anonymous3414]6 I guess the demand can be read at http://occupywallst.org
14[20:33] 14[125quadima14]6 several children have just died from hunger and poverty
14[20:34] 14[125poo-brain14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
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14[20:34] 14[125MK_14]6 What is the difference between an anarchist and a libertarian?
14[20:34] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Not to mention those who die because of expensive patented drugs.
14[20:34] 14[125quadima14]6 because one simple reason: They have no money
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14[20:34] 14[125Luxey14]6 That's unfortunate quadima :c
14[20:34] 14[125qwery3214]6 anonymous34: there used to be a link there to a facebook poll but i can't find it anymore
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14[20:34] 14[125NSF00114]6 One's high and one's in prison?
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14[20:34] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Libertarians are pro Capitalism and pro state protection
14[20:34] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 That could be made and sold for a fraction of the cost, saving many.
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14[20:34] 14[125KosmiKGuru14]6 anonymous34 - dont see it on occupywallst.org
14[20:34] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Simvastatin == bad drug
14[20:34] 14[125poo-brain14]6 REX 84
14[20:34] 14[125Turnip14]6 That actually leads to a question I've been wondering: Which GOP candidate has the best chance of winning the race?
14[20:34] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 libertarians are reformist, fucks
14[20:34] 14[125Guest2455714]6 anyone have any idea how many people are still at wall street?
14[20:34] 14[125janejana14]6 My dog
14[20:34] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Ron Paul is even more pro-capitalist than the banksters! He wants capitalists free to exploit workers in any way they want without any intervention by the government or unions.
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14[20:35] 14[125NSF00114]6 Turnip-- janejana's dog
14[20:35] 14[125janejana14]6 I'm going to enter her in the race this week
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14[20:35] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 ZantarianMaster - unless they're french Libertaires or spanish Libertarios, in which case they're still anarchists
14[20:35] 14[125NSF00114]6 So question.
14[20:35] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Anarchy - Anti Capitalist, Anti State. Libertarian - Pro Capitalist, Pro State (protection only)
14[20:35] 14[125qwery3214]6 i'm worried that the single demand is not being taken seriously and it was the only way to really achieve something
14[20:35] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 He's the ultimate stooge for the corpratocracy.
14[20:35] 14[125Luxey14]6 So wait. What's the general party that you guys favor, republican or democratic?
14[20:35] 14[125NSF00114]6 Where did the 20,000 people figure come from?
14[20:35] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Ron "Yeah, Segregation Is Okay If A Business Owner Wants It" Paul
14[20:35] 14[125quadima14]6 NO parties, at all
14[20:35] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 NSF001 - 20,000 was our goal
14[20:35] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Both of them are shit, Lux
14[20:35] 14[125KosmiKGuru14]6 What's the single demand?
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14[20:35] 14[125MK_14]6 Well if you are an anarchist, you are pro-capitalism imho
14[20:35] 14[125qwery3214]6 i'm from greece and i saw the ineffectiveness of lack of coordination in our protests
14[20:35] 14[125Guest2455714]6 Anyone have any idea how many people are still at wall street?
14[20:35] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Yeah...exactly, phlog
14[20:35] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 it's being voted on
14[20:35] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 But there is no leftist party in america
14[20:35] 14[125NSF00114]6 I see. what are the numbers looking like now?
14[20:35] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 I favor neither Democrat or Republican because both of them do shit all
14[20:35] 14[125jill14]6 Gosh, this remind me of the hot line when I was a teen ager. You get a phone line with a bunch of people all calling out and hope you find someone you can talk to.
14[20:35] 14[125qwery3214]6 lack of a single goal
14[20:35] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Sorry for the language
14[20:35] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 NSF001 - reports are anywhere from 7 to 33k
01[20:36] 14[ 121Okabe14]6 5555 viewers!
14[20:36] 14[125poo-brain14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
14[20:36] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 I have extremes at 1 and 50k
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14[20:36] 14[125dkmejia14]6 20,000 & 50,000 bogus numbers put out to discredit the movement. Was more like 7,500 earlier. No clue about now.
14[20:36] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Fuck that, Zan. Strong words for strong opinions.
14[20:36] 14[125NSF00114]6 That's pretty impressive. At wall street right now?
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14[20:36] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 no they're at another spot close by
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14[20:36] 14[125poo-brain14]6 Long Range Acoustic device on the way
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14[20:36] 14[125mcleanj14]6 Whingeing bankers asking for the poor to pay their taxes for them. Should it be allowed?
14[20:36] 14[125jill14]6 Does anyone know the difference between a concept and a operating principle?
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14[20:36] 14[125shomon14]6 I really can't understand the US interpretation of the word libertarian... here it pretty much means anarchist, unless I'm very wrong...
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14[20:37] 14[125Turnip14]6 How would bigger numbers discredit the movement?
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14[20:37] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 In America, it means radical corporatist, p. much
14[20:37] 14[125poo-brain14]6 people are going to get hurt
14[20:37] 14[125RadSousa14]6 @shomon: yes America has bastardized the term
14[20:37] 14[125Turnip14]6 (#uneducatedturnip)
14[20:37] 14[125RadSousa14]6 normally it is basically synonymous with anarchism
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14[20:37] 14[125MK_14]6 shomon Agreed (I'm in Canukistan)
14[20:37] 14[125shomon14]6 do libertarians in the states also want big government?
14[20:37] 14[125poo-brain14]6 Long Range Acoustic device on the way
14[20:37] 14[125NSF00114]6 Shomon- nope
14[20:37] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 shomon - it was claimed by Murray Rothbard in the 50s
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14[20:37] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 In a different way, Shomon
14[20:37] 14[125NSF00114]6 They want small government. No regulations
14[20:37] 14[125dkmejia14]6 what's up poo-brain? lol!
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14[20:37] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Libertarian is term that the capitalists took from the anarchists. But the anarchists are NOT capitalists. Anarchists are libertarian communists.
14[20:38] 14[125shomon14]6 just protection I guess
14[20:38] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 They want no regulations on SOME things. V:
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14[20:38] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 shomon - they're fine with big government when it comes to busting unions ;)
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14[20:38] 14[125Mol14]6 Hi. You probably got asked this question far too many times, but im from centralamerica and im wondering: How did it go? :)
14[20:38] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 I think we should get together and end the Republican dogma that Socialism is EVIL and the left wing fear of cheering it with pride!!!!!!!!!
14[20:38] 14[125dkmejia14]6 good call asinglespark!
14[20:38] 14[125poo-brain14]6 hi @dkmejia
14[20:38] 14[125NSF00114]6 ASingleSpark- social democrats is probably a better term.
14[20:38] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 admittedly shooting at peasants is cheaper than paying them
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14[20:38] 14[125tt__14]6 does anyone have a count on the number of people today?
14[20:38] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 it's still going, Mol
14[20:38] 14[125shomon14]6 libertarian socialist as well I guess... lots to learn with all these ideologies flying about
14[20:38] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 8 to 33 k
14[20:38] 14[125NSF00114]6 Yeah. Well
14[20:38] 14[125bottom9914]6 Well, strategically you could pile on to your enemies if you have superior numbers. A pile of humans with a riot cop on the bottom.
14[20:38] 14[125dkmejia14]6 hi @poo-brain. what's your ld acoustic device?
14[20:38] 14[125NSF00114]6 A lot of them are synonyms
14[20:38] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 with two weird extremes
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14[20:38] 14[125schock14]6 anyone hear of #refref actions?
14[20:38] 14[125MK_14]6 "libertarian communists" FAIL!
14[20:38] 14[125NSF00114]6 And a lot of them don't mean anything.
14[20:38] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 But they're not social democrats, NSF. They don't believe in bourgeois parliamentarism. They believe in direct democracy for the working class.
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14[20:39] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Yeah what's the deal with #refref?
14[20:39] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Bottom99 That doesn't work so well when the riot cops would shoot the shit out of them before they could pile on the riot cop.
14[20:39] 14[125schock14]6 did financial sites go down
14[20:39] 14[125Mol14]6 Whats going on? I guess lots of police presence? im cheering for you here, far away. But my heart goes to all of you. You are the only ones that can change the global status quo
14[20:39] 14[125Wobbly14]6 You remember in Transmetropilitan when all those Transhumanists get laid out by the police and theres not a reporter to be found?
14[20:39] 14[125dkmejia14]6 social democracy...hmmm. small is good, big is bad. simple.
14[20:39] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 MK_ - you may think it's new, but council communism is older than you, stupid troll
14[20:39] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Left wing libertarians are not like the rest... don't confuse them
14[20:39] 14[125Turnip14]6 Wait, is there really an LRAD on the way?
14[20:39] 14[125KosmiKGuru14]6 why arent they showing it on tv
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14[20:39] 14[125appliantologist14]6 put the people that fakes 911 in jail and you'll get 1/2 the criminals on wall street
14[20:39] 14[125dkmejia14]6 LOL @trunip!
14[20:39] 14[125NSF00114]6 I dont think bourgeois parliementariansim is equatable with social democracy.
14[20:39] 14[125dkmejia14]6 oops...@turnip
14[20:39] 14[125NSF00114]6 Not necessarily, at least.
14[20:39] 14[125poo-brain14]6 @dkmejia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7r-V6rDOpA
14[20:39] 14[125Turnip14]6 Someone said that a few minutes ago
14[20:39] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 It has been throughout history, NSF.
14[20:39] 14[125poo-brain14]6 you will hear it
14[20:39] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Wobbly I fuckin' love Transmetropolitan. It comes highly recommended.
14[20:40] 14[125poo-brain14]6 on the steam soon
14[20:40] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 To everyone else
14[20:40] 14[125bottom9914]6 Those deaths will guarantee the downfall of capitalism
14[20:40] 14[125janejana14]6 The last time I checked CNN they were showing a piece on dogs greeting soldiers
14[20:40] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 These terms do have a historical meaning.
14[20:40] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Ha ha ha, are you kidding, bottom99?
14[20:40] 14[125bottom9914]6 Martyrs for the cause and all
14[20:40] 14[125shomon14]6 http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/hey-president-obama-our-one-demand.html
14[20:40] 14[125appliantologist14]6 soon they will send in fake protesters to cause problems ...
14[20:40] 14[125janejana14]6 Prorities, I guess
14[20:40] 14[125NSF00114]6 How many social democracies can you name that didn't start in the last century?
14[20:40] 14[125shomon14]6 one demand... all the various options are on that link
14[20:40] 14[125Wobbly14]6 I think this is going to look a bit similar
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14[20:40] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 fake protestor == agent sabbateur
14[20:40] 14[125Revolting14]6 Is this a working class movement... Are there more bourgeois liberals or conscious working class folks on the ground?
14[20:40] 14[125Luxey14]6 My dad yells at Obama all day. he calls him an Obamination.
14[20:40] 14[125Luxey14]6 -.-
14[20:40] 14[125Korelg14]6 why not forget about all the ideologies and just pick what works best?? in the end it doesn't really matters if you pick up something from capitalism with a bit of comunism an maybe a cup of socialism if at the end your cake makes everyone happy
14[20:40] 14[125MK_14]6 You can't be if favour of communism and be a libertarian/anarchist at the same time. That just doesn't work
14[20:40] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 I'm not sure why that question is relevant, NSF.
14[20:40] 14[125dkmejia14]6 @poo-brain...ty! got it. but why do we care if 'they' have one?
14[20:41] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 The media would portray them as "terrorists" and "radicals" and every major political movement would say that they were terrible people
14[20:41] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Is anyone here in contact with someone who is in manhattan with everyone now?
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14[20:41] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 And that they should have just left
14[20:41] 14[125poo-brain14]6 it hurts
14[20:41] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: thanks for that one demand link... i was starting to get worried about that...
14[20:41] 14[12@5arcadie14]6 you can be an anarchocommunist
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14[20:41] 14[125poo-brain14]6 you will see
14[20:41] 14[125dkmejia14]6 okay...
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14[20:41] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 MK_ - yes it does
14[20:41] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Democracy began with the ideal of giving power to everyone and became a sham for the rich to manipulate the everyone
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14[20:41] 14[125NSF00114]6 IT is relevant.
14[20:41] 14[125shomon14]6 ah well, prepare to get confused again when you read that
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14[20:41] 14[125mcleanj14]6 it's anti corporate, power back to people not trans-nationals
14[20:41] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 The problem is not with the theory, it's with your ignorance
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14[20:41] 14[125Turnip14]6 My parents call Obama "[My] Homeboy" Because I said he was better than McCain in 08.
14[20:41] 14[125Sogwodger14]6 RadSousa: It doesn't sound like anyone is from what I've been seeing
14[20:41] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: i'm about to...
14[20:41] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 ^
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14[20:41] 14[125NSF00114]6 If you want to make the claim that all social democracies are ruled by a burgeois parliament, then you need to list them.
14[20:41] 14[125appliantologist14]6 9/11 was used to bomb the SEC... it was in building 7, the one that fell but didn't get hit by a plane.
14[20:42] 14[125MK_14]6 Communism = rules and people telling you what to do and when to do it.
14[20:42] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 "Representative" democracy under capitalism is joke because the only peole they represent are the capitalists.
14[20:42] 14[125rianna198314]6 hi everyone!
14[20:42] 14[125poo-brain14]6 @dkmejia http://twitpic.com/6mgon3
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14[20:42] 14[12@5arcadie14]6 that is not what communism is, it's not a dictatorship
14[20:42] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 MK that is not communism, Communism is anti state
14[20:42] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 it'd be a good idea to set up a decent network of alternative media to counter whatever the mainstream says about it. enough to be louder than the mainstream
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14[20:42] 14[125yesse14]6 what to do in austin, tx?
14[20:42] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Not true, MK. You're confusing Stalinism with communism.
14[20:42] 14[125NSF00114]6 Agreed.
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14[20:42] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 MK_ - so absolute monarchy is communism?
14[20:42] 14[125schock14]6 @AgentMeowMeow LOL http://indymedia.org
14[20:42] 14[125janejana14]6 Is Al-Jazeera still covering it?
14[20:42] 14[125rianna198314]6 I'm from spain, and I can't find any news from #occupywallstreet
14[20:42] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 DAMN, I'm SURE THE CZAR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN AWARE OF IT
14[20:42] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 I[19:42] MK that is not communism, Communism is anti state
14[20:42] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 http://i.imgur.com/ijQEp.jpg
14[20:42] 14[125mcleanj14]6 MK tell that to the people at the protest
14[20:42] 14[125MK_14]6 By definition, communism is pro state. Has the word community in the name!
14[20:42] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Stalinism is Marxism perverted
14[20:42] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: i think that's the only way we can achieve anything. without a single demand everyone's opinions, goals, demands etc.. will dissolve into nothingness in a few days
14[20:42] 14[125Wobbly14]6 not enthusiastically
14[20:43] 14[125rianna198314]6 could anyboy tell how it was today?
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14[20:43] 14[125NSF00114]6 MK_, you need to make a distinction between communism as an economic system and how authoritarian a government is.
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14[20:43] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 COMMUNISM IS ANTI STATE Aghhhhhhhhhh the definition says ANTI STATE
14[20:43] 14[125janejana14]6 They picked it up pretty fast & were asking for people to send in videos and pictures
14[20:43] 14[125Sogwodger14]6 would be a good idea to have someone or multiple someones in here who are either there or in contact with someone there so people could get live information
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14[20:43] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Yes I agree
14[20:43] 14[125S7714]6 any FB account?
14[20:43] 14[125NSF00114]6 ZantarianMaster is correct- it says so right in the manifesto.
14[20:43] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Community does not necesarrily = state, MK.
14[20:43] 14[125RadSousa14]6 also how do you reply directly to people?
14[20:43] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 hah!
14[20:43] 14[125adz14]6 anyone know if the occupation is still going on?
14[20:43] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 yeah but some forms of communism insist there has to be a state that takes over everything before breaking it up
14[20:43] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 It is.
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14[20:43] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 There's a live stream of it, adz
14[20:43] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 i.e. Stalin and Mao >.>
14[20:43] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[20:43] 14[125shomon14]6 http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/09/07/rushkoff.jobs.obsolete/index.html this article has been doing the rounds, good for considering the whole socialist vs capitalist debate in a larger context I think...
14[20:43] 14[125mcleanj14]6 communism is post socialist, no state
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14[20:44] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[20:44] 14[125Revolting14]6 dictatorship of the proletariat
14[20:44] 14[125rianna198314]6 any facebook official page or something?
14[20:44] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 JDPON, yo.
14[20:44] 14[125dkmejia14]6 so...everyone discussed different ideas for where to camp and what was legal. livestream not live again, so no idea what happened after that. general consensus on camping in park was what?
14[20:44] 14[125adz14]6 phlogiston4lyfe: ah sweet! know what time it ends? Was thinking of dropping by after work
14[20:44] 14[125shomon14]6 but about the single demand, in barcelona that was damaging. we kept it open to lots of aspects, because there is a lot that is wrong, in many areas of life here.
14[20:44] 14[125poo-brain14]6 https://occupywallst.org/
14[20:44] 14[125janejana14]6 NYTimes have this but it's a few hours old http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/wall-street-protest-begins-with-demonstrators-blocked/
14[20:44] 14[125Wobbly14]6 how long till the cops weigh into it, 15 min?
14[20:44] 14[125shomon14]6 so when we tried to do the "minimos" lots of people got pissed off
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14[20:44] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 No idea, adz. From what I hear, some people are thinking of staying the night.
14[20:44] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Mao made some errors but he was NOTHING like Stalin. Most of the stuff out there about Mao is procued by hard-right-wingers with an agenda.
14[20:44] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 shomon - yeah, the one demand was a holdover of the early call
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14[20:44] 14[125eddie14]6 hello people
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14[20:45] 14[125poo-brain14]6 The Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787
14[20:45] 14[125dkmejia14]6 it's going on all month...check it out!
14[20:45] 14[125eddie14]6 start chanting
14[20:45] 14[125anonaly14]6 follow general assembly happenings on twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23generalassembly
14[20:45] 14[125poo-brain14]6 just so you know
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14[20:45] 14[125gottaGo14]6 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN RICH PEOPLE HAVE ALL THE MONEY THEN WHAT??
14[20:45] 14[125eddie14]6 I AM SOMEBODY AND I DEMAND FULL EQUALITY
14[20:45] 14[125adz14]6 phlogiston4lyfe: haha that would be freaking sweet! I'm in
14[20:45] 14[125janejana14]6 Wobbly - there's a rumor that they won't try to stop the protest until 10pm
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14[20:45] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/OccupyWallSt
14[20:45] 14[125S7714]6 good 4 u guys
14[20:45] 14[125Revolting14]6 which is socialism, a dictatorship of the proletariat because only the working class can liberate themselves and overthrow capitalism and the state will not simply dissappear over night
14[20:45] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
14[20:45] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/anonops
14[20:45] 14[125MK_14]6 A community, heck even as small has a building or street, is a form of government/state rule.
14[20:45] 14[125Wobbly14]6 yeah but when is 10pm in NY? 15 minutes? 1hr 15?
14[20:45] 14[125Sh4ring4n14]6 1 hour 15
14[20:46] 14[125poo-brain14]6 cops are on the move
14[20:46] 14[125eddie14]6 I have been conntecting the dots
14[20:46] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: i understand .. this was a problem here in greece as well..
14[20:46] 14[125eddie14]6 the corps fund the hate groups, that attack LGBT.
14[20:46] 14[125shomon14]6 I believe more in allowing spontaneity to just grow in it's many aspects, and facilitate that... that would be creative, with talks, classes and actions...
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14[20:46] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: but you can only eat an elephant one piece at a time
14[20:46] 14[125schock14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[20:46] 14[125eddie14]6 OCCUPY CAPTIAL.
14[20:46] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 It is too dark in NYC to see anything
14[20:46] 14[125shomon14]6 people need tools, and don't use the web very well... they need fed and watered... :)
14[20:46] 14[125janejana14]6 8:46 in NYC right now
14[20:46] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 [19:46] the corps fund the hate groups, that attack LGBT.
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14[20:46] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Yeeeeeeop
14[20:46] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Exactly, Revolting. Dictatorship of the proletariat is in contrast to what we have now, a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. It does not mean the dictatorship of a person or small group but a dictatorship of the mass of workers over their capitalist oppressors.
14[20:46] 14[125poo-brain14]6 The Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787
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14[20:46] 14[125S7714]6 all states should occupy
14[20:47] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: there's no other way... but we're all super impatient and that's really killing us
14[20:47] 14[125Revolting14]6 No MK, the state exists to mediate the irreconcilable class antagonisms of capitalism. Without capitalism and class heirarchy there is no state as we understand it today.
14[20:47] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 I am anti-dictatorship of any type
14[20:47] 14[125eddie14]6 same here.
14[20:47] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 A TEMPORARY dictatorship of the proletariat, after the bourgeoisie dissipates the dictatorship will loose purpose and Communism is THAN achieved when the state is irrelevant!
14[20:47] 14[125shomon14]6 at the barcelona camp there was a computer recycling stall, and they worked out a whole communications suite in a week
14[20:47] 14[125eddie14]6 GET EQUAL IS going to do a massive march coming soon
14[20:47] 14[125qwery3214]6 shomon: one single goal at a time is the only way in my opinion
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14[20:47] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 you know what could be interesting?
14[20:47] 14[125adz14]6 is it true that the police are not letting people in there anymore?
14[20:48] 14[125eddie14]6 it may be a occupation like in wisconsin
14[20:48] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 encouraging general strikes, but… do anti-lockouts
14[20:48] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 workers seize the workplaces and occupy
14[20:48] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Hmm, anti-lockout
14[20:48] 14[125Yuno14]6 So what is the end goal?
14[20:48] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 they just "lock out" the boss
14[20:48] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Precisely, Revolting. Which is why "anarcho-capitalism" is such a contradiction in terms. Capitalists cannot exist without using the state as an instrument to oppress the workers.
14[20:48] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 >.>
14[20:48] 14[125Revolting14]6 You have to understand that we are currently living under a bourgois dicatatorship to understand why a dictatorship of the working class is historically necessary\
14[20:48] 14[125shomon14]6 tonight I saw a video of the permaculture garden we made at plaza catalunya. all these people have now occupied a local bit of land to make a permanent garden
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14[20:48] 14[125MK_14]6 Communism doesn't work because poeple are lazy
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14[20:48] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 MK_ - do you have anything new to say
14[20:48] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Communism is not handouts it is giving people a chance! There is a difference.
14[20:49] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Seems like the property owner might be allowing the protesters to stay out if they remain peaceful
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14[20:49] 14[125qwery3214]6 Yuno: the end goal.. i wish i knew... i'm also confused with a million things that are going wrong
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14[20:49] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 You might be lazy, MK. But the workers of this world surely are not. Everything you see around you was produced by them.
14[20:49] 14[125qwery3214]6 Yuno: not sure what to change
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14[20:49] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 word is busloads of people trying to attend are being sent away
14[20:49] 14[125egax114]6 start with the government
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14[20:49] 14[125poo-brain14]6 Illuminati was founded on May 1, 1776 - same day Osama Bin Laden, Adolf Hitler both declared dead on May 1
14[20:49] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Again can someone please tell me how to message or respond to individual people in here??
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14[20:50] 14[125poo-brain14]6 just sayin
14[20:50] 14[125Yuno14]6 qwery32: If there is no end goal what is the point
14[20:50] 14[125egax114]6 busloads coming from where?
14[20:50] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Can we kick poo brain for being crazy? V:
14[20:50] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" - A great visionary.
14[20:50] 14[125adz14]6 RadSousa: I think you double click their name
14[20:50] 14[125Wobbly14]6 "Lets not disperse until we are asked to" yeah these guys are going to rock the foundations of society >_<
14[20:50] 14[125qwery3214]6 that's what we're trying to figure out....
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14[20:50] 14[125KosmiKGuru14]6 Could someone summarize status in 140 characters :)
14[20:50] 14[125qwery3214]6 first of many goals that will lead us towards the end goal
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14[20:50] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Sure, there's a group of rich white guys ruling the world, but it's not the illuminati
14[20:50] 14[125Turnip14]6 Poo-brain was 9/11 an inside job?
14[20:50] 14[125adz14]6 RadSousa: oops you actually click and then press query
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14[20:50] 14[125anonymous3414]6 I think every country has their ways, I am more on the idea to let US to use their way to express its "indignation", good luck people!
14[20:50] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 phlogiston4lyfe - hey, they're fine with asians and middle easterners too!
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14[20:50] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 >.>
14[20:51] 14[125poo-brain14]6 is israel free?
14[20:51] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Rich White guys?? The super rich are of all races
14[20:51] 14[125eddie14]6 DO WHAT WISCONSIN DID. DO WHAT EGYPT DID DO WHAt LGBT NEW YORK DID. OCCUPY
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14[20:51] 14[125MK_14]6 Give me an example of anything "communist" that is actually sustainable.
14[20:51] 14[125bertil14]6 I am ready I am sharpening my pitchfork
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14[20:51] 14[125mcleanj14]6 Wobbly, they just re group. they don't go home
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14[20:51] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 MK_ - can you give me an example of you shutting the fuck up
14[20:51] 14[125qwery3214]6 for example i don't want to be a millionnaire.. i don't care about that.. and i'd like it if there was a place i could stay where all the other people that really care about being millionaires wouldn't affect me in any way... but there's not such a place in this planet
14[20:51] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 that would be great
14[20:51] 14[125eddie14]6 they should stay and occupy and others come in
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14[20:51] 14[125eddie14]6 until next friday
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14[20:52] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 there's also work that NYPD threatens to remove folks from public sidewalks
14[20:52] 14[125bertil14]6 not communism but fairness !
14[20:52] 14[125bottom9914]6 I'd be happy living in an earthbag house and farming hemp
14[20:52] 14[125qwery3214]6 i understand that i can't change people's desires for more money etc... i just don't want being affected by that
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14[20:52] 14[125mcleanj14]6 we have never had communism how can we give you a working example? there have been those who supposedly aspired to it, but...
14[20:52] 14[125bertil14]6 when one gets a permit to protest it is not a protest
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14[20:52] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 communism, properly understood, is the epitome of fairness.
14[20:52] 14[125era_14]6 So I'm stuck on the other side of the country. What can I do to help?
14[20:52] 14[125bertil14]6 for it to be a protest it must disrupt
14[20:53] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Hmm, sort of
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14[20:53] 14[125poo-brain14]6 @era_ love
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14[20:53] 14[125egax114]6 PEOPLE PROSTESTING SHOULD BE AWARE OF UNDERCOVER COPS TRYING TO LOOK LIKE PROTESTERS AND CREATING CHAOS AND ACTS OF VIOLENCE LIKE THEY DID IN THE G20 IN CANADA
14[20:53] 14[125poo-brain14]6 always helps
14[20:53] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Communism is not perfect equality, it is not Utopian. It is simply freedom and cooperation!
14[20:53] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 era_ Send links to people. Tweet shit using the #takewallstreet and #occupywallstreet hash tags.
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14[20:53] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
14[20:54] 14[125stranger_14]6 bertyll, those can not create can only disrupt
14[20:54] 14[125MK_14]6 So in the history of civilization, nobody has ever lived under real "communism", so you can't come up with an example. Right
14[20:54] 14[125poo-brain14]6 REX 84
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14[20:54] 14[125janejana14]6 whoa, the number counts getting thrown around on twitter are getting huge
14[20:54] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 ♥ out to the protesters at Wall Street
14[20:54] 14[125egax114]6 BEWARE OF THE UNDERCOVER ARENISTS...IF U SEE ONE, DETAIN HIM!!!
14[20:54] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 They're talking about agent provocateurs at the protest.
14[20:54] 14[125egax114]6 ARSENISTS
14[20:54] 14[125stranger_14]6 but many used to live during the attempts to build that "real communism"
14[20:54] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 :3
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14[20:54] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Paris Commune was one but external influence... Same with Revolutionary Spain (well Spain was Anarchist)
14[20:54] 14[125mcleanj14]6 Communism is post socialist.please try to learn something of the subject before venting
14[20:55] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 'arsonist"?
14[20:55] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 No. They've lived under socialist societies where the goal was to transition to communism, but no, communism has never been achieved.
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14[20:55] 14[125Turnip14]6 Renists?
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14[20:55] 14[125stranger_14]6 and can't be
14[20:55] 14[125bottom9914]6 Though I doubt they'll make the same mistake, check for police boots
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14[20:55] 14[125bertil14]6 I do not want communism I want justice for the same rules for me and wall street i want them to pay my tax rate
14[20:55] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 So communiskm
14[20:55] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 I sometimes wear combat boots
14[20:55] 14[125mcleanj14]6 bertil thats what we are asking for
14[20:55] 14[125stranger_14]6 i'd like see something like in cities like moscow or minsk
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14[20:55] 14[125egax114]6 DONT WEAR THEM TODAY
14[20:56] 14[125bertil14]6 stop making the devil's advocate agruement that it is this way or communism
14[20:56] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 It isn't
14[20:56] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 I don't think anyone said that
14[20:56] 14[125poo-brain14]6 its called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
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14[20:56] 14[125poo-brain14]6 some needs too tell him to say that
14[20:56] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 a devil's advocate argument would be saying "Nah, guys, the current system isn't THAT bad..."
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14[20:56] 14[125Revolting14]6 When you say you do not want communism what you are saying is that you support nation-states that exist to stifle class conflict and as long as there are nation-states there will be war so you are also pro war.
14[20:56] 14[125MK_14]6 Raise your hand if you are against communism. Raising hand
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14[20:57] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 "Guys" in the gender neutral sense, of course.
14[20:57] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 The catholics invented devil's advocate
14[20:57] 14[125dkmejia14]6 not raising hand...
14[20:57] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbLU9tdDwxo
14[20:57] 14[125bertil14]6 How about a system like the 1950's when the great rich paid a much higher tax rate wasn't that our most prosperous time ?
14[20:57] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Can I unraise my hand even more from an unraised position?
14[20:57] 14[125dkmejia14]6 you rock @poo-brain!
14[20:57] 14[125era_14]6 wow, dude talking about silver
14[20:57] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 That would be a step in a less shitty direction, bertil.
14[20:57] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 MK, I urge you to read the Communist Manifesto. Just to clear a BIT of that ignorance you so desperately cling to, even if you do not end up agreeing.
14[20:57] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 but simply having higher tax rates isn't going to fix everything.
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14[20:57] 14[125janejana14]6 It makes too much sense, so that's why the government isn't doing it
14[20:58] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Sheeshf, taxes are high enough already
14[20:58] 14[125RadSousa14]6 the silver guy is pretty funny
14[20:58] 14[125mcleanj14]6 the catholics invented devils advocate to give voice to those being prosecuted.
14[20:58] 14[125ponzo14]6 for real
14[20:58] 14[125ponzo14]6 ONE THING
14[20:58] 14[125bertil14]6 Another devil adocate just because it won't fix everything we shouldn't do it ?
14[20:58] 14[125egax114]6 HOW CONVENIENT....ALL THE WALL STREET TRAFFIC CAMS, THE " BULL CAM" AND MANY OTHERS ARE NOT WORKING AT THE MOMENT DUE TO TEMPORARILY MALFUNCTIONS
14[20:58] 14[125ponzo14]6 BUY PHYSICAL SILVER
14[20:58] 14[125ponzo14]6 lame
14[20:58] 14[125RadSousa14]6 lol
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14[20:58] 14[125RadSousa14]6 as opposed to non-physical silver which is useless
14[20:58] 14[125Guest1605514]6 that guy was a little off
14[20:58] 14[125ponzo14]6 haha
14[20:58] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Oh who, soliton?
14[20:58] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Bertil, the 1950's "prosperity' was based on the exploitation of millions of poor people around the world. Much like today. We have to think beyond just our own little enclave and look at how everything fits together.
14[20:59] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 don't buy silver
14[20:59] 14[125RadSousa14]6 you could kinda hear the voices like reduce in volume like (wha??)
14[20:59] 14[125ponzo14]6 are y'all at the park?
14[20:59] 14[125dkmejia14]6 Ummm....buy a garden. build a dirtbag home. start a local currency. start a local life. get off the system.
14[20:59] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 don't pretend that some rock has inherent value
14[20:59] 14[125ponzo14]6 or just watching the livestream?
14[20:59] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Higher taxes on the rich will HELP but not fix everything. This is only the beginning of true reform.
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14[20:59] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 fuck that
14[20:59] 14[125CactusA14]6 the '50 prosperity was also based on the reconstruction of europe
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14[20:59] 14[125dkmejia14]6 fuck what?
14[20:59] 14[125Guest1605514]6 the guy that talked about physical silver and spies throwing rocks,... he should have just kept silent
14[20:59] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2936&from=rss_home
14[20:59] 14[125bertil14]6 Let's get real If the country is broke we are not going to balence the budget on the backs of the poor its math they do not have enough to balence the budget
14[20:59] 14[125RadSousa14]6 actually its more than 5K watching now
14[20:59] 14[125egax114]6 500 people watching internationally
14[20:59] 14[125egax114]6 5000
14[20:59] 14[125RadSousa14]6 5600
14[20:59] 14[125ponzo14]6 woooo
14[20:59] 14[125era_14]6 wooooo
14[20:59] 14[125egax114]6 how many are watching?
14[20:59] 14[125ponzo14]6 solidarity
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14[20:59] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 solidarity
14[21:00] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 egax1 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:00] 14[125Wobbly14]6 oooo look at the ticker climb
14[21:00] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:00] 14[125Korelg14]6 >fix taxes rates >use that money on health and education >everything went better than expected
14[21:00] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Solidarity Comrades!
14[21:00] 14[125Wobbly14]6 ooo look at it drop....
14[21:00] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
14[21:00] 14[125janejana14]6 :D
14[21:00] 14[125poo-brain14]6 twitter is going crazy now
14[21:00] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 solidarity forever!
14[21:00] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Guys if you haven't yet you might want to tweet the livestream: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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14[21:00] 14[125Revolting14]6 solidaridad!
14[21:00] 14[125egax114]6 thanks, I am actually watching it too
14[21:00] 14[125qwery3214]6 WHERE ARE YOU GUYS FROM?
14[21:00] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Earth
14[21:00] 14[125ponzo14]6 san diego
14[21:00] 14[125qwery3214]6 greece here
14[21:00] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 (most of us)
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14[21:01] 14[125bertil14]6 durango, co
14[21:01] 14[125anonaly14]6 canada
14[21:01] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Lawrence, KS
14[21:01] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 San Diego rules
14[21:01] 14[125shomon14]6 barcelona
14[21:01] 14[125qwery3214]6 SolitonWave: and smart town :)
14[21:01] 14[125poo-brain14]6 https://occupywallst.org/
14[21:01] 14[125Korelg14]6 Chile, south america here
14[21:01] 14[125CactusA14]6 Valparaiso, Chile, South America
14[21:01] 14[125adz14]6 haha "The police ask to speak to the leader. We told them that there is no leader. They didnt understand"
14[21:01] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Norman, Oklahoma, USA
14[21:01] 14[125qwery3214]6 awesome !
14[21:01] 14[125egax114]6 NEW YORK
14[21:01] 14[125poo-brain14]6 interwebs with my sea of booty
14[21:01] 14[125adz14]6 NYC w00t w00t
14[21:01] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 You all are doxing yourselves
14[21:01] 14[125ponzo14]6 I'm trying to think of ways to bring this to schools
14[21:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 egax1, why aren't you on site?
14[21:01] 14[125stranger_14]6 accordin ip addrs most are NOT from us
14[21:01] 14[125poo-brain14]6 :D
14[21:01] 14[125qwery3214]6 egax1: what you doing here... go down to wall st
14[21:01] 14[125Guest1605514]6 what did the guy in the suit and yellow tie say?
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14[21:01] 14[125schock14]6 #takewallstreet is twitter trending worldwide :)
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14[21:01] 14[125egax114]6 im really hungover
14[21:01] 14[125ponzo14]6 its fantastic
14[21:01] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 I read that earlier, adz. Made me laugh
14[21:01] 14[125egax114]6 had a longggg nite
14[21:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 womppp wommmppp
14[21:01] 14[125ponzo14]6 fuck that get down there
14[21:01] 14[125adz14]6 stranger_: oh wow that's surprising
14[21:02] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Cops seem to be kicking everyone out at 10. e_e
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14[21:02] 14[125Wobbly14]6 awwww the feed restarted....
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14[21:02] 14[125qwery3214]6 egax1: down a few more and off you go...
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14[21:02] 14[125era_14]6 Wait what did that old guy say?
14[21:02] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 #takewallstreet is flooded by right-wing trolls though
14[21:02] 14[125Guest1605514]6 this is an old feed now
14[21:02] 14[125egax114]6 im spreading the word on FB and twitter, im doing more good staying home for now
14[21:02] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 ugh. word is Obama is trying to back them.'
14[21:02] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Oh, wait, yeah, it's an old feed now
14[21:02] 14[125schock14]6 switching to hashtag #takewallstreet b/c it seems like twitter *may* have been supressing #occupywallstreet. not conclusive though
14[21:02] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPFC7THiKho
14[21:02] 14[125thecrook14]6 does anybody know what's happening right now?
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14[21:02] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 cameraperson's out of batteries
14[21:02] 14[125adz14]6 got about another hour and I can finally get down there
14[21:02] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 :(\
14[21:02] 14[125poo-brain14]6 its live - http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:02] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 Anyone know of an alternate stream?
14[21:02] 14[125poo-brain14]6 yes
14[21:03] 14[125qwery3214]6 guys.. here's an amazing post which i think illustrates one of the main problems we face right now:
14[21:03] 14[125qwery3214]6 http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2011/08/short-term-capitalism.html
14[21:03] 14[125Yossarian14]6 how many people?
14[21:03] 14[125bertil14]6 drown out the facists
14[21:03] 14[125egax114]6 i looked and looked for about 1 hour
14[21:03] 14[125Hermano14]6 IMHO, the right-wing trolls are going to take all the chat rooms sooner or later
14[21:03] 14[125egax114]6 blogdog: Wall Street Occupation live cam http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2011/09...
14[21:03] 14[125adz14]6 schock: why would twitter supress it. That would be the worst PR
14[21:03] 14[125shomon14]6 solidariedad con los presos politicos mapuche y la lucha estudiantil desde barcelona
14[21:03] 14[125AgentMeowMeow14]6 also there's rumors that wall street stores are recieving faxes to close down for sunday
14[21:03] 14[125elvisdechico14]6 twitter definitely censored #occupywallstreet. here's proof: http://imgur.com/cyTbo
14[21:03] 14[125bertil14]6 stay and fight the right wingers
14[21:03] 14[125egax114]6 this one is the only stream from wallstreet
14[21:03] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 :\
14[21:03] 14[125MK_14]6 Are you guys really communists, or are you playing me?
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14[21:03] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 hello
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14[21:03] 14[125adz14]6 all things considered it's not that hard to measure a trend yourself. If studies come out that twitter was suppressing this....it wouldn't be too good for twitter
14[21:03] 14[125CactusA14]6 Solidaridad con españa desde chile!
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14[21:03] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 I don't know what I would be considered, but I know that I'm far, far to the left of anything in American politics.
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14[21:04] 14[125stranger_14]6 no, they are just the muppets of real commies
14[21:04] 14[125Anonymii14]6 hey is Ruben still in here?
14[21:04] 14[125shomon14]6 oh yes we all have long beards and sit in cafes discussing who controls the means of production while smoking cigars.
14[21:04] 14[125ponzo14]6 interesting
14[21:04] 14[125egax114]6 Facebook didn't let me share a link for occupywallstreet.com
14[21:04] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 I feel American Politics are a lost cause
14[21:04] 14[125qwery3214]6 MK_: Enough with the communism stuff. All this fight about -isms is getting really boring! Each one of us has a different understanding of what communism means and we are just wasting our time trying to force our definitions to everyone else.
14[21:04] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/OccupyWallSt
14[21:04] 14[125bertil14]6 ask a policeman where his pension went ?
14[21:04] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Hey is anything like this planned for LONDON?
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14[21:04] 14[125Marxist14]6 hello does anyone know how long this action is planned to go on?
14[21:04] 14[125Anonymii14]6 anyone know where _Ruben went?
14[21:04] 14[125freedombogart14]6 out of batteries lolol
14[21:04] 14[125Anonymii14]6 truthandfreedom: yes
14[21:04] 14[125qwery3214]6 it's a waste of time
14[21:04] 14[125shomon14]6 this is an apolitical protest, so that everyone can go and express whatever they want, democratically
14[21:04] 14[125ns79114]6 You can't spell revolution without revolt.
14[21:04] 14[125egax114]6 atleast untill monday
14[21:04] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Capitalism is STILL the issue!
14[21:04] 14[125koko14]6 how many ppl are there?
14[21:04] 14[125schock14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/TakeWallStreet
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14[21:05] 14[125bertil14]6 drive 100 miles east and look at the mcmansion and you all will know where our money went
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14[21:05] 14[125Anonymii14]6 truthandfreedom: getting link hold on
14[21:05] 14[125egax114]6 they say thousands
14[21:05] 14[125freedombogart14]6 need to charge batteries so stream in middle of night in case shit happens in the night
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14[21:05] 14[125stranger_14]6 yes, for london moscow and shanghai ;)
14[21:05] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 @anonmii thanks
14[21:05] 14[125Marxist14]6 in other words is there any point in driving in from Memphis?
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14[21:05] 14[125egax114]6 not sure how many
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14[21:05] 14[125adz14]6 egax1: wprled fome fpr ,e
14[21:05] 14[125adz14]6 egax1: worked fine for me
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14[21:05] 14[125schock14]6 Marxist: Until a federal commission to eliminate corporate money from elections is appoointed, apparently
14[21:05] 14[125poo-brain14]6 REX 84
14[21:05] 14[125schock14]6 Marxist: hopefully, yes.
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14[21:05] 14[125Revolting14]6 The word apolitical is a joke.
14[21:05] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 MK you tried to force a Pro-State Communist definition on use that you along with propaganda say without understanding what Communism is! Stop being a hypocrite.
14[21:05] 14[125bertil14]6 abolish the electoral college one person one vote
14[21:05] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
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14[21:06] 14[125poo-brain14]6 tell them too watch out NOW!!
14[21:06] 14[125dkmejia14]6 livestream camera out of batteries? lol...major fail. anyone there?
14[21:06] 14[125shomon14]6 bipartisan capitalism is revolting enough already, but according to food price trends we are headed for riots in lots of places no matter what.
14[21:06] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 "everyone throw on your lights and sirens"?
14[21:06] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 They've already been warned, poo-brain.
14[21:06] 14[125poo-brain14]6 ok
14[21:06] 14[125schock14]6 OK start tweeting for folks to live stream from the action
14[21:06] 14[125Revolting14]6 If someone is in memphis coming in I need a ride!!!!
14[21:06] 14[125Marxist14]6 wow, um that kinda puts the burden on me now this is amazing
14[21:06] 14[125Anonymii14]6 truthandfreedom: having trouble finding it
14[21:06] 14[125dkmejia14]6 food prices...altered by commodities market. down with wall st.
14[21:06] 14[125mcleanj14]6 echo
14[21:06] 14[125Revolting14]6 Im in tn
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14[21:06] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 They went over what happened at the g20 protests in canada
14[21:06] 14[125ns79114]6 eliminate all lobbyists, the electoral collage, and the federal reserve bank or all our current problems will persist even if we eliminate corporate campaign contributions
14[21:06] 14[125poo-brain14]6 they will be removed after 10pm
14[21:06] 14[125Burningcouch114]6 How many people are participating in this thing at the moment?
14[21:06] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Anyways, do you guys think some actual change will come from this?
14[21:07] 14[125ponzo14]6 bummer that the livestream is out of batteries
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14[21:07] 14[125poo-brain14]6 8000+
14[21:07] 14[125shomon14]6 in the people who turn up, who get inspired, yes
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14[21:07] 14[125ponzo14]6 whens that changing?
14[21:07] 14[125ASingleSpark14]6 Yes, Wall Street driving up food prices through speculation. They are starving, literally, millions of people all over the world.
14[21:07] 14[125dkmejia14]6 haven't seen the new tools released by anon today. link?
14[21:07] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 @anonymii thanks, ill b logged here for a while hopefully i will see if you post it
14[21:07] 14[125shomon14]6 depends how much talking, how friendly it all is
14[21:07] 14[125schock14]6 Hey all, what twitter account is a good target for a twitter petition on this action?
14[21:07] 14[125qwery3214]6 ZantarianMaster: if they manage to agree on a single demand maybe...
14[21:07] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: woah woah how is stuff gonna work without the federal reserve bank. don't we need the whole FDIC insurance
14[21:07] 14[125egax114]6 8000 plus? really?
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14[21:07] 14[125qwery3214]6 ZantarianMaster: otherwise... no way
14[21:07] 14[125bertil14]6 force brings change
14[21:07] 14[125schock14]6 like, what account reps 'wall st.'
14[21:07] 14[125MK_14]6 shomon Food has never been cheaper!
14[21:07] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, i hope you're being sarcastic :P
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14[21:07] 14[125Revolting14]6 But yeah i asked myself the same question, what if its been dispersed by the time I get there... is it worth making the trip
14[21:07] 14[125ehh14]6 is there another stream that's still live?
14[21:07] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Does anyone know of similar events taking place in LONDON UK?
14[21:07] 14[125dkmejia14]6 start with wall st. starve the millionaires. move on to the fed.
14[21:07] 14[125bertil14]6 lets hope the authorities overstep their bounds and the house of cards will fall
14[21:07] 14[125Anonymii14]6 @truthandfreedom: k, search for "occupy wall street" and then there was a list of companion protests, london, miami, d.c., i think
14[21:07] 14[125poo-brain14]6 yes
14[21:08] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 I feel people should first work on tax equality, which I believe almost everyone their would agree upon.
14[21:08] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Wait can someone confirm the figure of 7-8K currently there?
14[21:08] 14[125shomon14]6 in the horn of africa, or for people who are getting food stamps cut at some point
14[21:08] 14[125bertil14]6 no more compromise justice
14[21:08] 14[125dkmejia14]6 yes-earlier. don't know now.
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14[21:08] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: I'm actually interested. What's the other option
14[21:08] 14[125egax114]6 if you are not in the US, please spread the word, THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA IS IGNORING IT
14[21:08] 14[125anon__14]6 Hm
14[21:08] 14[125qwery3214]6 ZantarianMaster: good first goal to focus on
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14[21:08] 14[125anon__14]6 How many people are at the protest?
14[21:08] 14[125mcleanj14]6 MK_ which palnet are you on exactly. try looking at the prices internationally
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14[21:08] 14[125ehh14]6 stream i was watching went down
14[21:08] 14[125shomon14]6 the live stream guy said "about a thousand said yes there" a while back
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14[21:08] 14[125dkmejia14]6 earlier 7,500 were at protest. don't know now.
14[21:08] 14[125schock14]6 any #refref action?
14[21:08] 14[125anon__14]6 cool
14[21:08] 14[125schock14]6 did any financial sites go down today?
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14[21:08] 14[125freedombogart14]6 worldwide solidarity protests!!
14[21:09] 14[125egax114]6 i heard 8000
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14[21:09] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Um, what's the latest video stream?
14[21:09] 14[125ponzo14]6 that was just at the general assembly
14[21:09] 14[125janejana14]6 I'm just glad people are getting these opinions out, not letting them get drowned by all the Tea Party/Republican coverage
14[21:09] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, research FDIC insurance, there's actually no insurance
14[21:09] 14[125ponzo14]6 theyre out of batteries
14[21:09] 14[125RadSousa14]6 lol @ "you're already home baby!"
14[21:09] 14[125Marxist14]6 what is the plan for tomorrow?
14[21:09] 14[125ns79114]6 its all a scam
14[21:09] 14[125dkmejia14]6 anyone have the tools supposed to be released today?
14[21:09] 14[125ponzo14]6 working on getting more
14[21:09] 14[125stranger_14]6 dkmeja, divide this number by 10
14[21:09] 14[125Guest1605514]6 message regarding the unified demand - http://www.adbusters.org/blogs/adbusters-blog/hey-president-obama-our-one-demand.html
14[21:09] 14[125schock14]6 whoever is running http://occupywallst.org, it would be good to replace the current static map with a Crows or Ushahidi instance for live updates.
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14[21:09] 14[125dkmejia14]6 @ns791 what is a scam
14[21:09] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: sure there is. Bank goes bankrupt, we know our money is safe
14[21:09] 14[125egax114]6 TOMORROW MEET AT THE SAME PLACE AT 10AM
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14[21:09] 14[125dkmejia14]6 um....10
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14[21:09] 14[125Anonymii14]6 @truthandfreedom: GOT IT
14[21:10] 14[125Anonymii14]6 @truthandfreedom: #OCCUPYCANARYWHARF in London, UK
14[21:10] 14[125janejana14]6 aren't people staying overnight?
14[21:10] 14[125Yoko14]6 does anyone know the bodycount?
14[21:10] 14[125stranger_14]6 ye, there were 300 - 500 ppl, no more
14[21:10] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, unless there is a run on the banks like during the great depression
14[21:10] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 Yes there suppost to janejana
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14[21:10] 14[125Anonymii14]6 @Yoko: 500-1,000 in the beginning Bowling Green organizing time, according to a friend who was there
14[21:10] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 unless the police attack
14[21:10] 14[125Yoko14]6 it looks like ~1000, no?
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14[21:10] 14[125ns79114]6 all money in our economy is debt
14[21:10] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: true...but it is a layer of protection
14[21:10] 14[125Anonymii14]6 @truthandfreedom: #OCCUPYCANARYWHARF in London, UK
14[21:10] 14[125Guest1605514]6 Today Obama Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/us/politics/obama-tax-plan-would-ask-more-of-millionaires.html
14[21:10] 14[125egax114]6 YEAH..but if more people want to show up or cant stay over night they shall meet at the same place AT 10 AM, thats is what one of the protesters said earlier
14[21:11] 14[125poo-brain14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
14[21:11] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 @anonymii thanks!
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14[21:11] 14[125Anonymii14]6 @truthandfreedom: np mate
14[21:11] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Police will not attack a group unless they are openly communist or anarchist... that way they can easily blame the other group. Otherwise it is obvious repression against the people.
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14[21:11] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: In order for society to keep functioning there needs to be at least some illusion that your money is worth something and is safe. Otherwise, how do you convince folks to work
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14[21:11] 14[125an0n14]6 is anyone on here still at the event on Wall Street?
14[21:11] 14[125ns79114]6 United States of Terror: 3 Lies That Killed Over 5 Million People -- aka GENOCIDE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGlwv7TA9MI&feature=share <--- Most americans STILL believe the propaganda put up by the government, despite the fact that the people responsible have ADMITTED their responsibility
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14[21:11] 14[125Yoko14]6 an0n: I'm back in brooklyn right now
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14[21:12] 14[125PKKK14]6 Hi
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14[21:12] 14[125bbpproductions14]6 kkm
14[21:12] 14[125PKKK14]6 Any Photo Bock Of the protest ???
14[21:12] 14[125Revolting14]6 There should be a ridesharing network to get people up from around the country.
14[21:12] 14[125egax114]6 yoko, how many ppl did u see there?
14[21:12] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, use non fiat gold and silver currency, created by the government, without interest
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14[21:12] 14[125PKKK14]6 Any Photo Bock Of the protest ???
14[21:12] 14[125PKKK14]6 Any Photo Bock Of the protest ???
14[21:12] 14[125Yoko14]6 I think it's around 1000, but I'm really bad at headcounts
14[21:12] 14[125egax114]6 lol..ok ty
14[21:12] 14[125Yoko14]6 I was trying to get a better figure from people here
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14[21:13] 14[125egax114]6 ive heard all kind of numbers
14[21:13] 14[125PKKK14]6 Any Photo Bock Of the protest ???
14[21:13] 14[125PKKK14]6 Any Photo Bock Of the protest ???
14[21:13] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 pkkk there's a looping stream here. Apparently the cameraperson is getting more batteries for a livestream soon. http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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14[21:13] 14[125an0n14]6 testing...
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14[21:13] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitpic.com/photos/SufficiencyMAF
14[21:13] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, you dont need the government to protect gold and silver coins.... just a big gun and a willingness to use it to protect yourself if need be
14[21:13] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: in theory that would be great, but how would we go about reverting to that kind of currency. Stuff like electronic transactions would stop working..
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14[21:14] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, why not? we can still have banks and do online transactions
14[21:14] 14[125mcleanj14]6 who eats electronic transactiions
14[21:14] 14[125Yoko14]6 phlogiston4lyfe: what time is this loop from?
14[21:14] 14[125anon0815471114]6 hi folks, in germany, they speak of 20000@wallstreet ?
14[21:14] 14[125rpoijew0ijr14]6 Will anything come of this, or is it a waste of time?
14[21:14] 14[125ns79114]6 just have to stop printing fake money
14[21:14] 14[125RadSousa14]6 If anyone is near manhattan and has a dell 1525 battery or can get one the livestream guy needs more juice!!
14[21:14] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 labor vouchers > gold
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14[21:14] 14[125egax114]6 not 20,000
14[21:14] 14[125Yoko14]6 also, the auto-ads on the livestream are investment advice
14[21:14] 14[125Yoko14]6 lol
14[21:14] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 yoko: I dunno. It's looped back to this bit once or twice before.
14[21:14] 14[125ns79114]6 Lenin, only if they can be turned back in for gold and used to pay taxes
14[21:14] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: hmm...so basically bring back the gold backing?
14[21:14] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 yoko: ha ha ha
14[21:14] 14[125Tucson14]6 News stories are saying protestors came without a real purpose or mission, which is going to make it hard to get anywhere
14[21:15] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 ns791: you dont get what labor vouchers mean, there not money
14[21:15] 14[125stranger_14]6 and RT will tell u about 100 000...
14[21:15] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 having trouble finding info conerning #operationcanarywharf, #operationbankofengland or any similar sort of protest in London, UK. All i have are hashtags with no leads and an empty facebook event page
14[21:15] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 they dont cuirculatre
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14[21:15] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, end the federal reserve bank and take it back over
14[21:15] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 ns791: labor vouchers simply repersent the number of hours you have worked
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14[21:15] 14[125ns79114]6 make it federally controlled again, and not a private corperation
14[21:15] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 once there used there destoryed
14[21:15] 14[125ns79114]6 Lenin, ah I see
14[21:15] 14[125cHills14]6 AMEN NS791
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14[21:15] 14[125anon0815471114]6 i didnt believe the numbers, thats why im here
14[21:15] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: since when was it a private corp?
14[21:15] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitpic.com/6mcso8 - this says it all
14[21:15] 14[125mcleanj14]6 federal control is corporate control these days
14[21:16] 14[125Tucson14]6 what are the numbers?
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14[21:16] 14[125egax114]6 If anyone is near manhattan and has a dell 1525 battery or can get one the livestream guy needs more
14[21:16] 14[125zk_14]6 there is a good fluent live stream at http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2011/09/17/live-blogging-occupywallstreet-nypd-block-protesters-from-getting-near-the-banksters/ . it is though link embeded from globalrevolution, but I am having problem with globalrevolution live stream
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14[21:16] 14[125egax114]6 If anyone is near manhattan and has a dell 1525 battery or can get one the livestream guy needs more
14[21:16] 14[125ns79114]6 Federal Reserve Bank = privately owned corporation, look into it.
14[21:16] 14[125TruthSeeker14]6 http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/wall-street-people-s-occupation-begun?CID=examiner_alerts_article
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14[21:16] 14[125ns79114]6 Federal Reserve Bank doesn't really mean it's a part of the federal government.
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14[21:16] 14[125ZantarianMaster14]6 Anyways, I'm out. Lets hope we can still save the USA Long Live the People!
14[21:16] 14[125poo-brain14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
14[21:16] 14[125ns79114]6 Its all a lie to confuse people that don't do their research.
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14[21:17] 14[125zk_14]6 Long Live the People
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14[21:17] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Is it still going on? I just got out of work, about to head downtown. Just not sure where to meet up with everyone.
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14[21:17] 14[125poo-brain14]6 LOVE for alltime
14[21:17] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: The Federal Reserve System's structure is composed of the presidentially appointed Board of Governors (or Federal Reserve Board), the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation, numerous privately owned U.S. member banks and various advisory councils.
14[21:17] 14[125sachimoto14]6 "Karma is a BITCH!"
14[21:17] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: not completely company owned
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14[21:17] 14[125cHills14]6 I had a government professor who worked in DC (said he hated it and left because of corruption) told my class in college that the FRB isn't part of the government and isn't listed in the phone book in the "government" section. Hmmmmm
14[21:17] 14[125Tucson14]6 STLegacy - yes, it's supposed to go for days
14[21:17] 14[125egax114]6 people are going to be in wallstreet at 10pm
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14[21:17] 14[125Yoko14]6 STLegacy: not sure. I'm thinking of going back to the city in a bit if people are around
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14[21:18] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 #Operationremember announced for 5th of November London, UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU
14[21:18] 14[125rpoijew0ijr14]6 Is there an official twitter for this? If not, is there any twitter that will be keeping updates on it?
14[21:18] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Tucson, do you know the current location? Even better would be the train stop to get off at. I'm bringing a camera and tablet so I can broadcast wifi and get more people posting again.
14[21:18] 14[125ns79114]6 Q: Who owns the Federal Reserve Bank? A: There are actually 12 different Federal Reserve Banks around the country, and they are owned by big private banks. But the banks don’t necessarily run the show. Nationally, the Federal Reserve System is led by a Board of Governors whose seven members are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate.
14[21:18] 14[125ns79114]6 http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/federal-reserve-bank-ownership/
14[21:18] 14[125sachimoto14]6 what if people just keep walking around without blocking the sidewalk?
14[21:18] 14[125egax114]6 Twitter is censoring it
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14[21:18] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 so curfew is 10pm?
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14[21:18] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 What is everyones bets?
14[21:18] 14[125egax114]6 no, 10pm, going down to wallstreet
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14[21:19] 14[125poo-brain14]6 yes the roit control is ready
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14[21:19] 14[125Scottlikesapples14]6 Why is there no sound system?
14[21:19] 14[125aqua_14]6 Hey all wish I could be in NYC
14[21:19] 14[125egax114]6 IDK
14[21:19] 14[125aqua_14]6 So a tweet said the cops were moving in at 10 pm tonight?
14[21:19] 14[125egax114]6 THEY have a small bullhorn
14[21:19] 14[125ForThePeople_14]6 This is awesome
14[21:19] 14[125rpoijew0ijr14]6 you guys need the livestream up before you go down
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14[21:19] 14[125sachimoto14]6 Twitter is "NOT" sensoring anything, they are just not "Trending" #occupywallstreet
14[21:19] 14[125weneedthis14]6 im not in NYC. but whats the next step? occupying the wall street will only accomplish so much.
14[21:19] 14[125ForThePeople_14]6 I wish I was able to support in person
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14[21:19] 14[125Tucson14]6 @occupywallstnyc
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14[21:19] 14[125ns79114]6 But until we put an end to lobbyists government controlled is exactly the same as corporeality controlled.
14[21:19] 14[125aqua_14]6 takewallstreet is trending and has been pretty much all day
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14[21:20] 14[125aqua_14]6 tes bs
14[21:20] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
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14[21:20] 14[125aqua_14]6 yes ns
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14[21:20] 14[125pickle_14]6 Does anyone have any realistic numbers as to how many people are at the demonstration?
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14[21:20] 14[125ns79114]6 corporately*
14[21:20] 14[125Abhish14]6 w00t!
14[21:20] 14[125aqua_14]6 how do you help if your ass is unemployed and living in Europe?
14[21:20] 14[125egax114]6 I guess the live stream cam battery died!
14[21:20] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://twitpic.com/6mcso8
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14[21:20] 14[125ForThePeople_14]6 this is a pretty slow chat
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14[21:20] 14[125mcleanj_14]6 system constantly logging me out
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14[21:21] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 aqua_ Share links to the site, retweet stuff using the hash tags.
14[21:21] 14[125poo-brain14]6 REX 84
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14[21:21] 14[125d7k7m714]6 http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/17/technology/occupy_wall_street/
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14[21:21] 14[125aqua_14]6 I've been doing my part than. :)
14[21:21] 14[125Xobi14]6 How many folks still there??
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14[21:21] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Fulton St would be the closest train station?
14[21:21] 14[125egax114]6 yeah, if you DONT live oin the US and want to help do it by spreading the WORD
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14[21:21] 14[125Yoko14]6 oh frack
14[21:21] 14[125egax114]6 good job aqua
14[21:21] 14[125Yoko14]6 L train isn't running
14[21:21] 14[125egax114]6 really?
14[21:21] 14[125greengork114]6 Thanks for the good work in setting up this chat, We need more people to get out there and show them the middle class is brused but not dead.
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14[21:22] 14[125poo-brain14]6 they are calling it a day of rage
14[21:22] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 FAO LONDON UK PEOPLE : #Operationremember announced for 5th of November London, UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU
14[21:22] 14[125STLegacy14]6 taking the 6 to the 4. Google maps the directions if you are looking to get there
14[21:22] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.inquisitr.com/142766/day-of-rage-september-17/
14[21:22] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 Anyone here on the ground?
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14[21:22] 14[125Tucson14]6 #takewallstreet good place to see current info, supposedly still thousands occupying wallstreet is that accurate?
14[21:22] 14[125Abhish14]6 truthandfreedom: ooh, neato.
14[21:22] 14[125Frim14]6 What is going on?
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14[21:22] 14[125Agent_Anon14]6 VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
14[21:22] 14[125poo-brain14]6 remember remember the 5th of november
14[21:22] 14[125aqua_14]6 thanks truth now that's something I can do!
14[21:22] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 yeah theres like 500 to a thousand people in the park
14[21:22] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 meh
14[21:22] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Yoko follow on twitter @justsherm Ill start posting when I get down there to help you find it if you want
14[21:22] 14[125greengork114]6 There is power in numbers, I know I was on the capital square in Madison Wi during the Walker shit and it matters
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14[21:23] 14[125Abhish14]6 Tucson: No body really knows.
14[21:23] 14[125Yoko14]6 STLegacy: ok
14[21:23] 14[125Agent_Anon14]6 SHOTS FIRED
14[21:23] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 is anyone here on wall st?
14[21:23] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 the 5th of november can die for all I care, Guy Fawkes was a catholic fundie
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14[21:23] 14[125TruthSeeker14]6 That's what I've been reading @ Tucson
14[21:23] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: if it were completely government regulated, how should it be run?
14[21:23] 14[125poo-brain14]6 indeed
14[21:23] 14[125egax114]6 who said shots fired....dont mess around like that
14[21:23] 14[125greengork114]6 ditto
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14[21:23] 14[125RadSousa14]6 Yeah shots fired!? what an idiot!
14[21:24] 14[125qwery3214]6 agent_anon, came, trolled, left... ignored
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14[21:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 trollololol
14[21:24] 14[125Frim14]6 great success
14[21:24] 14[125poo-brain14]6 http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Day+of+Rage
14[21:24] 14[125RyanLennon14]6 What is the status? Are Police still lining up outside the park?
14[21:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 anyone here on wall st?
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14[21:24] 14[125sachimoto14]6 It was who said, "SHOTS FIRED" and then (s)he left.
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14[21:24] 14[125RyanLennon14]6 Are they going to pull people out?
14[21:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 it appeared as though they might be allowed to stay
14[21:24] 14[125poo-brain14]6 yes police are ready
14[21:24] 14[125Cyp__14]6 btw, this seems to be live http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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14[21:24] 14[125thecrook14]6 If they pull people out we need to replace them.
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14[21:24] 14[125poo-brain14]6 roit gear and all
14[21:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 that went dead didnt it?
14[21:24] 14[125thecrook14]6 This stuff isn't funny anymore.
14[21:25] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 live stream is waiting on batteries
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14[21:25] 14[125egax114]6 they said that the owner of the property would posibly allow them to spend the night there if they remained peacful......
14[21:25] 14[125greengork114]6 Good luck
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14[21:25] 14[125Frim14]6 Any streams up?
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14[21:25] 14[125Cyp__14]6 Frim http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s this one is live I think
14[21:25] 14[125egax114]6 http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2011/09/wall-street-occupation-live-cam.html
14[21:25] 14[125RadSousa14]6 I still think they should try to sleep on wall street if it is feasible because it is much more important symbolically
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14[21:26] 14[125poo-brain14]6 really monday will show all
14[21:26] 14[125Guest9123214]6 the protestors should ask for call for a new minimum tax rate for individuals making more than $1 million a year to ensure that they pay at least the same percentage of their earnings as middle-income taxpayers. that way, when Obama anounces this on monday, the protestos can claim it as a win: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/us/politics/obama-tax-plan-would-ask-more-of-millionaires.html
14[21:26] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 the blog one is live stream feed thats down
14[21:26] 14[125Wobbly14]6 Its a Fawkes mask in the corner now?
14[21:26] 14[125ns79114]6 adz, if they ended the fed I would run the currency the same way it was ran for the 250+ years that our country thrived on gold backed non-fiat currency
14[21:26] 14[125egax114]6 yeah, but how many ppl can sleep on the side walk with out blocking it and getting arrested
14[21:26] 14[125mcleanj_14]6 I think being safe and there tomorrow is more important than symbolism
14[21:26] 14[125thecrook14]6 I think the real question is, how many people can they arrest?
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14[21:26] 14[125Wobbly14]6 they have half an hour to get that battery
14[21:26] 14[125egax114]6 good question
14[21:26] 14[125thecrook14]6 Going home to sleep and then coming back is not protest.
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14[21:26] 14[125Yoko14]6 egax1: if we don't block more than half the sidewalk, it's legal to sleep on it
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14[21:27] 14[125eddie14]6 next event im willing to help organiz
14[21:27] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 yeah but no tents
14[21:27] 14[125eddie14]6 IM a community leader
14[21:27] 14[125Yoko14]6 (not a lawyer, this isn't legal advice, etc) but that's what I heard from Adbusters
14[21:27] 14[125egax114]6 yeah, i heard that
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14[21:27] 14[125eddie14]6 i am willing to help out next time
14[21:27] 14[125thecrook14]6 which community, Eddie?
14[21:27] 14[125sachimoto14]6 The Police tend to get bored so they will arrest EVERYONE that they can fit into a truck.
14[21:27] 14[125eddie14]6 LGBT
14[21:27] 14[125ns79114]6 Ron Paul's idea of a flat tax + gold backed currency seems to make the most sense to me... 10% tax to the poor would be next to nothing but 10% tax on the filthy rich corps is a lot better than the 0% the top corps pay now
14[21:27] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 they annouynced it
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14[21:27] 14[125thecrook14]6 do you have contact information?
14[21:27] 14[125egax114]6 but 8000 ppl sleeping on the sidewalks with out blocking them sounds a bit hard
14[21:27] 14[125mcleanj_14]6 protest is expressing the opinion, why should where you sleep make a difference
14[21:27] 14[125eddie14]6 eyadalkurabi@gmail.com
14[21:27] 14[125ceszlul14]6 Police all dressed up with nothing too do?
14[21:27] 14[125Yoko14]6 true
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14[21:27] 14[125eddie14]6 add me on FB
14[21:27] 14[125Flavor14]6 Im so amped about this. What can I so over here?
14[21:27] 14[125Guest6418614]6 what is going on?
14[21:27] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 dude think abouyt how much money nyc is blowing on police overtime
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14[21:28] 14[125eddie14]6 https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=581971082
14[21:28] 14[125egax114]6 if ur not in the US...spread the word
14[21:28] 14[125egax114]6 titter FB
14[21:28] 14[125egax114]6 etc
14[21:28] 14[125mcleanj_14]6 How can that many police be justified when money is so tight?
14[21:28] 14[125ceszlul14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
14[21:28] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Eddie, request sent. You are there?
14[21:28] 14[125NSF00114]6 TheSilentCartogr: It'll be too expensive to keep em out
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14[21:28] 14[125eddie14]6 yep
14[21:28] 14[125adz14]6 TheSilentCartogr: well it's not blowing money. Theoretically could get violent. Can never be too safe
14[21:28] 14[125eddie14]6 im not in NYC
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14[21:28] 14[125STLegacy14]6 bah
14[21:28] 14[125egax114]6 Can somebody post the link for the new live stream please?
14[21:28] 14[125eddie14]6 I should be.
14[21:28] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Ill chat you from my phone when I get down there
14[21:28] 14[125ceszlul14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:29] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:29] 14[125agag14]6 facebook and twitter don't work for me
14[21:29] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 its down tho
14[21:29] 14[125Cyp__14]6 egax1 try this one http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s it have battery
14[21:29] 14[125Korelg14]6 cops should join the protest...
14[21:29] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 waiting on batteries
14[21:29] 14[125ns79114]6 mclean, money isn't tight, thats just an illusion created by perceived scarcity and speculators to justify hyperinflating fiat currency.
14[21:29] 14[125phlogiston4lyfe14]6 egax1 The person is still trying to get new batteries for the camera
14[21:29] 14[125bertil14]6 most violence starts with the police
14[21:29] 14[125eddie14]6 I'm from Clifton Park
14[21:29] 14[125egax114]6 thx cesz
14[21:29] 14[125eddie14]6 Saratoga
14[21:29] 14[125Yoko14]6 ok, I'm gonna see if I can take the J train in
14[21:29] 14[125egax114]6 ty silent
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14[21:29] 14[125Guest9123214]6 hours ago they discussed sleeping on wallstreet come monday
14[21:29] 14[125STLegacy14]6 http://www.facebook.com/JustSherm if anyone wants to add I can fbook chat while I try to get there to help
14[21:29] 14[125Abhish14]6 w00t!
14[21:29] 14[125NSF00114]6 How many people are there?
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14[21:29] 14[125ceszlul14]6 yes monday is the new D-day for sure
14[21:29] 14[125egax114]6 thx guys
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14[21:29] 14[125RadSousa14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:29] 14[125stranger_14]6 and how much money went for tickets of those who came for servers, for bandwith, how much got ppl on this channel who are talking from europe i3 AM
14[21:29] 14[125ns79114]6 money being tight is such a stupid concept, there are no less resources available now then there was in 2007, it's just perceived scarcity created by speculators
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14[21:29] 14[125egax114]6 what kind of battery is it?
14[21:30] 14[125egax114]6 Yoko, post what train to take in case ppl wanna go down
14[21:30] 14[125eddie14]6 get equal
14[21:30] 14[125Cyp__14]6 Dell 1525
14[21:30] 14[125eddie14]6 may occupy captial for federal equality
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14[21:30] 14[125eddie14]6 OCCUPY THE CAPTIAL FOR FEDERAL EQUALITY ?
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14[21:30] 14[125egax114]6 I'll keep posting the battery model ever few minutes to see if anyone has one
14[21:31] 14[125mcleanj_14]6 ns791 agreed, but I don't have them and the bank wont part with them
14[21:31] 14[125STLegacy14]6 4 Train Fulton ST is near Wall ST. Not sure exactly where the movement is right now
14[21:31] 14[125RadSousa14]6 I believe the message before the livestream went down said that a BATTERY IS ENROUTE
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14[21:31] 14[125ForThePeople_14]6 The Coffee Party just posted news on this movement on their Facebook, more people will be made aware, yessss!!
14[21:31] 14[125egax114]6 oh ok
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14[21:31] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:31] 14[125Guest9123214]6 I want to hear what the crowd is saying, not this old lady,... http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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14[21:31] 14[125egax114]6 im sure they will need another battery in a few hours
14[21:31] 14[125aqua_14]6 Live stream seems to be working again
14[21:32] 14[125Guest9123214]6 good she left
14[21:32] 14[125ns79114]6 become part of the federal governement, I hear employment rates in DC are at an all time high, and there's more federal resources than ever before in history
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14[21:32] 14[125Minos_14]6 Is the battery broke or just out of juice? When I was there earlier I saw some outlets in the park. Gif sockets sticking out of the ground near some of the trees
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14[21:32] 14[125egax114]6 IF YOU ARE GOING TO WALL TREET AND HAVE A DELL 1525 BATTERY, PLEASE TAKE IT FOR THE LIVE STREAM DUDE
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14[21:32] 14[125ns79114]6 money is only tight if you're not under the gov umbrella
14[21:32] 14[125mcleanj_14]6 and who gets the resources?
14[21:32] 14[125aqua_14]6 Live stream is showing images but the audio is off
14[21:32] 14[125egax114]6 oh, sweet, they got outlets
14[21:32] 14[125xaq14]6 Viva la revolucion!!!
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14[21:33] 14[125timfranzen14]6 hello
14[21:33] 14[125NSF00114]6 What's the livestream link again?
14[21:33] 14[125ravrvs14]6 I started a Wikipedia page for us: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street
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14[21:33] 14[125adz14]6 egax1: would it help to just bring a laptop?
14[21:33] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Attention people from UK, Protest. London. 5th of November. #Operationremember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU
14[21:33] 14[125cHills14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:33] 14[125egax114]6 yeah, u could stream too
14[21:33] 14[125stranger_14]6 and ustream there is sound and no video
14[21:33] 14[125STLegacy14]6 If you bring a laptop I can give you internet
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14[21:33] 14[125ns79114]6 you people think the government is going to just give back everything they looted from the American people without violence you're insane...
14[21:33] 14[125aqua_14]6 government isn't the enemy its the right wing infrastructure funded by the corporate elite
14[21:33] 14[125cHills14]6 Sound is back for me
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14[21:33] 14[125adz14]6 STLegacy: sweet.
14[21:33] 14[125cHills14]6 and video
14[21:33] 14[125ravrvs14]6 it'll get better once our movement has a clear purpose, hopefully backed by Adbusters or at least sourced by a mainstream news website
14[21:33] 14[125Yoko14]6 hey, thinking about heading out now
14[21:33] 14[125Yoko14]6 should I bring anything?
14[21:33] 14[125egax114]6 sound is back on Ustream
14[21:33] 14[125poo-brains14]6 ns791 people need too know becuase the gov will spin this
14[21:34] 14[125NSF00114]6 What's the liveleak link?
14[21:34] 14[125egax114]6 take a laptop if u want
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14[21:34] 14[125egax114]6 or a camera
14[21:34] 14[125egax114]6 and some water
14[21:34] 14[125ns79114]6 poo-brains: oh i know
14[21:34] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Whatever you think you need for yourself. If you bring expensive stuff hook up with people you trust
14[21:34] 14[125egax114]6 and weed...lol jk
14[21:34] 14[125aqua_14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
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14[21:34] 14[125STLegacy14]6 and bring a sweater or jacket, its cold out
14[21:34] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 if the pizza gets there tell them anon sent it
14[21:34] 14[125schock214]6 silent: LOL
14[21:34] 14[125cHills14]6 Mainstream News is COMPLETELY ignoring this. Mother Jones, TPM, and Al Jazeera are talking about it
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14[21:35] 14[125egax114]6 LAME STREAM MEDIA
14[21:35] 14[125schock214]6 cHills: They will pay attention if there's still a camp on Monday morning.
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14[21:35] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 maybe
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14[21:35] 14[125cHills14]6 Lets hope it lasts!
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14[21:35] 14[125schock214]6 let's do more than hope.
14[21:35] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 msm has a vested interest in keeping this kind of stuff off the airwaves
14[21:35] 14[125Minos_14]6 The outlets are silver boxes sticking out of the ground. Open the metal flap press the reset button and plug in your device. I saw a guy charging his phone with one.
14[21:35] 14[125aqua_14]6 more people need to show up and make it hard for the wall street boys to get into their offices
14[21:35] 14[125egax114]6 yeah, once the weekend is over they will have no option but to talk about it in the news
14[21:35] 14[125timfranzen14]6 is lupe fiasco on?
14[21:35] 14[125ceszlul14]6 Monday gives me hope
14[21:35] 14[125schock214]6 let's systematically convince people to join in :)
14[21:35] 14[125ns79114]6 the fact that the fed gov wont legalize marijuana and still arrests a million people a year for possession of a medicinal herb that has never caused a single death is just more proof that they are in corp's back pocket
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14[21:35] 14[125Wobbly14]6 niiiice
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14[21:36] 14[125ns79114]6 mainstream media is corp owned, why would they cover protests of corp america?
14[21:36] 14[125schock214]6 anyone hear anything about #refref today?
14[21:36] 14[125schock214]6 did any financial firms sites go down?
14[21:36] 14[125aqua_14]6 Private prison system has created the 3 strikes laws.
14[21:36] 14[125adz14]6 ns791: yeah I know that sucks :(, I wish they would legalize acid too. It's become damn near impossible to get it in the city
14[21:36] 14[125cHills14]6 Its not in the tobacco/alcohol businesses' interests. same with the cotton industy blocking hemp
14[21:36] 14[125ceszlul14]6 ns791 the system is to enslave
14[21:36] 14[125thecrook14]6 i hear you adz
14[21:36] 14[125stranger_14]6 did anybody here protested against bush tax cuts?
14[21:36] 14[125Guest9123214]6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_nIWWcer7U
14[21:36] 14[125schock214]6 ns: because they will cover anything if it will bring views, because they get paid by the number of viewers.
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14[21:37] 14[125cHills14]6 They'll cover it ..and they'll lie about it too
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14[21:37] 14[125qwery3214]6 not bad: http://trendistic.indextank.com/occupywallstreet/_on-2011-09-17-22h-utc
14[21:37] 14[125cHills14]6 Its expected.
14[21:37] 14[125adz14]6 by the way, I was wondering why WOULD the government have incentive to ban non-harmful drugs
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14[21:37] 14[125ceszlul14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
14[21:37] 14[125thecrook14]6 it's historical
14[21:37] 14[125ns79114]6 schock2, yeah the media will tell the truth about corporations... and the us gov wasn't responsible for 9/11 or the gulf of tonkin either... heh
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14[21:37] 14[125thecrook14]6 Nixon had a great PR opportunity
14[21:37] 14[125adz14]6 drugs = happy people = people won't revolt
14[21:37] 14[125nana6x14]6 Please know that we are with you in solidarity and keep stong but safe!
14[21:37] 14[125STLegacy14]6 adz incorrect information, fear
14[21:37] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 adz: marijana is banned to help the logging and alcohol industrys.
14[21:37] 14[125schock214]6 http://trendistic.indextank.com/takewallstreet
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14[21:38] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 wait y is weed bad for logging?
14[21:38] 14[125thecrook14]6 it doesn't really matter why; what matters is how we can change it
14[21:38] 14[125aqua_14]6 Nixon's PR team was headed by Roger Ailes, now the President of Fox
14[21:38] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 TheSilentCartogr: hemp
14[21:38] 14[125thecrook14]6 aqua - good to know!
14[21:38] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 ?
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14[21:38] 14[125timfranzen14]6 someone just put this link in the livestream chat
14[21:38] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 can build buildings?
14[21:38] 14[125cHills14]6 The cotton industy is against it too
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14[21:38] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Attention UK/London people Protest 5th November @ Parliament #operationremember follow @Anon_ops on twitter for updates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU
14[21:38] 14[125ns79114]6 TheSilentCartogr, hemp paper and building materials would eliminate the need to turn the rain forrests into timber
14[21:38] 14[125cHills14]6 no reason to use cotton when hemp is better in every way
14[21:38] 14[125adz14]6 Lenin_Cat: what about acid? It's relatively safe, whole different category than alcohol and cigs, no addiction
14[21:38] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 TheSilentCartogr: hemp can be used instead of logs for paper
14[21:38] 14[125chillzar14]6 viva la revolucion
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14[21:38] 14[125cHills14]6 so they lobby and get it banned
14[21:38] 14[125nana6x14]6 we are coming down from boston tomorrow..........
14[21:38] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 we dont want livestream people
14[21:38] 14[125aqua_14]6 Take care good people. Its late in the UK. I'm off to bed
14[21:38] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 that has been masstroll
14[21:38] 14[125cHills14]6 Night
14[21:38] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 adz: dunno
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14[21:39] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Nana6x I'm originally from Boston, I'll be waiting :)
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14[21:39] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 probably THINK OF THE CHILDRENZ
14[21:39] 14[125Wobbly14]6 still no batterie?
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14[21:39] 14[125thecrook14]6 hey adz - you got contact info? I have some interesting Lucy insights you might be interested in
14[21:39] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 ustream is up
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14[21:39] 14[125ceszlul14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
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14[21:39] 14[125adz14]6 thecrook: adz@nycitt.com
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14[21:40] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 theyre staying in the park
14[21:40] 14[125egax14]6 PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THE NIGHT AT THE PARK
14[21:40] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 they got permission
14[21:40] 14[125ns79114]6 wtf, I clicked on the livestream link and there's a FUCKING FORD COMMERCIAL
14[21:40] 14[125PaulJ14]6 TheSilentCartogr, check out The Emporer Has No Clothes by Jack Herer
14[21:40] 14[125ns79114]6 !@#!#$$%@#$#$
14[21:40] 14[125thecrook14]6 beautiful.
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14[21:40] 14[125cHills14]6 "This is what democracy looks like"
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14[21:40] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 free services, brought to you by your favorite corporation...
14[21:40] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 what ustream
14[21:40] 14[125egax14]6 tell me what democracy looks like?
14[21:40] 14[125ceszlul14]6 ha
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14[21:40] 14[125schock214]6 ustream link?
14[21:40] 14[125cHills14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:40] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 iuts down
14[21:41] 14[125schock214]6 tx
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14[21:41] 14[125eddie14]6 THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS IKE
14[21:41] 14[125egax14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:41] 14[125Cyp__14]6 just went down schock2
14[21:41] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 Are there any adfree streaming services?
14[21:41] 14[125egax14]6 Ustream is down
14[21:41] 14[125cHills14]6 yeah :/
14[21:41] 14[125schock214]6 anon really shd make a free open source live mobile streaming tool/site
14[21:41] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:41] 14[125ns79114]6 I still want to know who's smart idea it was to wait until the temps are in the 40s and 50s in new york to start a protest....
14[21:41] 14[125veto14]6 good morning from thailand and cheers for the protesters
14[21:41] 14[125PaulJ14]6 It's on CNN: http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/17/technology/occupy_wall_street/?hpt=hp_t2
14[21:41] 14[125poo-brains14]6 man oct going too be ugly
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14[21:42] 14[125thecrook14]6 Paulj: nobody in america reads their news anymore. we need television coverage.
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14[21:42] 14[125STLegacy14]6 The CNN article has been up since 10AM
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14[21:42] 14[125STLegacy14]6 no new coverage
14[21:42] 14[125Lenin_Cat14]6 ustream is offline
14[21:42] 14[125PaulJ14]6 sorry, don't watch tv myself, so...
14[21:42] 14[125timfranzen14]6 wait
14[21:42] 14[125timfranzen14]6 sooo
14[21:42] 14[125thecrook14]6 do you think we could organize a media rush?
14[21:42] 14[125thecrook14]6 calling local stations
14[21:42] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yeah they said small group, we will see moday
14[21:42] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 cool CNN pic -- tourists don't get to see the "bull"
14[21:42] 14[125thecrook14]6 emailing national news corporations?
14[21:42] 14[125timfranzen14]6 why isn't there a live feed?
14[21:42] 14[125adz14]6 I'm surprised nobody funded a livestream?
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14[21:42] 14[125schock214]6 NYTiems: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/wall-street-protest-begins-with-demonstrators-blocked/
14[21:42] 14[125cHills14]6 Its down, Tim
14[21:42] 14[125STLegacy14]6 We don't need the media. Neither do the politicians. The internet is free.
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14[21:42] 14[125thecrook14]6 the internet is free and WE don't need it
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14[21:42] 14[125dkmejia14]6 yeah...major fail on the video, which is crucial.
14[21:43] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:43] 14[125thecrook14]6 but WE won't get this done
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14[21:43] 14[125thecrook14]6 we need the nation.
14[21:43] 14[125poo-brains14]6 we need people too care
14[21:43] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 livestream is almost up again
14[21:43] 14[125thecrook14]6 and that's television.
14[21:43] 14[125timfranzen14]6 okay. i just need some instant info. I've become a realtime junkie
14[21:43] 14[125cHills14]6 America doesnt need the idiot box
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14[21:43] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
14[21:43] 14[125adz14]6 all it would take is a good camera, laptop, couple of 4G hotspots, and an amazon account.
14[21:43] 14[125egax14]6 we need more poeple down there with laptops or live stream cams
14[21:43] 14[125STLegacy14]6 theCrook Yes. Now. But eventually we can move past it
14[21:43] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Step by step
14[21:43] 14[125Wobbly14]6 Wooooo looks like its back up
14[21:43] 14[125thecrook14]6 i agree
14[21:43] 14[125Wobbly14]6 just in time for the police
14[21:43] 14[125thecrook14]6 but now is now.
14[21:44] 14[125Debord14]6 does anyone know anything about the claim that busloads of people heading towards the protesters were turned back?
14[21:44] 14[125poo-brains14]6 we all need to watch out for the roit police
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14[21:44] 14[125nana6x14]6 We are coming with supplies..tomorrow!
14[21:44] 14[125STLegacy14]6 <---- bringing a 4G hotspot
14[21:44] 14[125adz14]6 plus doesn't anonymous have a lot of bandwidth/hosting resources?
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14[21:44] 14[125dkmejia14]6 switching over to watch. heard that news media vans were turned away earlier today but no confirmation.
14[21:44] 14[125poo-brains14]6 YES indeed
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14[21:44] 14[125egax14]6 there ia another stream here
14[21:44] 14[125egax14]6 http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2011/09/wall-street-occupation-live-cam.html
14[21:44] 14[125dkmejia14]6 police band at http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905
14[21:45] 14[125timfranzen14]6 wait, what happened? why is there a need for a medical person?
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14[21:45] 14[125STLegacy14]6 the revolution will not be televised
14[21:45] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 theyre meeting
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14[21:45] 14[125egax14]6 i heard rumours about the buses in here, but nothing confirmed
14[21:45] 14[125JoshB14]6 are they doing working group discussions?
14[21:45] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 the revolution will not be televised but it will be livestreamed, tweeted, and facebooked
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14[21:45] 14[125egax14]6 yeah, they are organizing groups
14[21:45] 14[125danique14]6 hey
14[21:45] 14[125thecrook14]6 it should be all of the above.
14[21:45] 14[125JoshB14]6 what are discussion topics
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14[21:45] 14[125thecrook14]6 televised, reported, tweeted, facebooked
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14[21:46] 14[125danique14]6 i'm thinking to head over there (nj) - what is going on? how many people?
14[21:46] 14[125schock14]6 anyone in this room actually at Wall St. now?
14[21:46] 14[125adz14]6 STLegacy: but with all the folks with cameras does it make sense for somebody to try to block it
14[21:46] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://twitpic.com/6mgtv8/full
14[21:46] 14[125cHills14]6 its on tumblr too
14[21:46] 14[125egax14]6 they said around 8000 and climbing
14[21:46] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 the report is between 500 and 1000 people
14[21:46] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 for the night
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14[21:46] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 daytime was a lot more
14[21:46] 14[125Guest5938314]6 This is the greatest thing ever.
14[21:46] 14[125STLegacy14]6 adz: Thats the point. It won't be blocked.
14[21:46] 14[125adz14]6 STLegacy: exactly so if I was a news organization I would jump on it
14[21:46] 14[125PaulJ14]6 Headlining tonight on Common Dreams: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/17-1 (it's the CNN piece)
14[21:46] 14[125danique14]6 8000?? nothing in local media! waiting for the news at 10pm
14[21:47] 14[125PaulJ14]6 at least that's something I can post to Facebook
14[21:47] 14[125thecrook14]6 danique: don't hold your breath
14[21:47] 14[125thecrook14]6 they don't care
14[21:47] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 people please stay! if you can show that this is possible with your courage, it will grow! don't even think about all the rumors about arrests, etc... if you get arrested, it will NOT be a big deal. just minor charges that won't stick. HANG IN THERE!
14[21:47] 14[125egax14]6 yoko, was heading down there right now, he is taking a laptop with him so we might have another streaming cam
14[21:47] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Adz: They are being ordered not to. So we have to. I'm bringing the camera, 4G, pens and a notebook. It will be reported.
14[21:47] 14[125danique14]6 thecrook: yeah, totalitarism in its best.
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14[21:47] 14[125thecrook14]6 we should be flooding those news corps with demands
14[21:48] 14[125thecrook14]6 they can be ordered not to, but we can demand otherwise
14[21:48] 14[125thecrook14]6 some local stations are bound to listen
14[21:48] 14[125thecrook14]6 it can build like that.
14[21:48] 14[125thecrook14]6 don't ever do nothing because the something you can do seems fruitless
14[21:48] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Thecrook: we can demand all they want. But it has to start here with us.
14[21:48] 14[125Guest5938314]6 Is anyone on Wall St. now?
14[21:48] 14[125thecrook14]6 every bit counts.
14[21:48] 14[125timfranzen14]6 well i'm deathly sick
14[21:48] 14[125timfranzen14]6 i think i'm going to be going to bed now
14[21:48] 14[125timfranzen14]6 good night all
14[21:48] 14[125cHills14]6 Night
14[21:48] 14[125timfranzen14]6 stay safe, and good luck
14[21:48] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://pastebin.com
14[21:48] 14[125schock14]6 anyone have a credible source for numbers?
14[21:48] 14[125adz14]6 STLegacy: right, so the whole question is what the hell are the authorities thinking? It would only create bad publicity for them if they start blocking this, and it would make the news companies loose a shitton of advertising profit for tonight. And it wouldn't do one bit to stop the spread of the event
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14[21:48] 14[125Guest5938314]6 Is anyone on wall street at this time?
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14[21:48] 14[125schock14]6 NYTimes reports 500 :p
14[21:48] 14[125era_14]6 Any word on the results from the assembly?
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14[21:48] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 watching the NY Media
14[21:49] 14[125thecrook14]6 I'd think the media would underestimate numbers, but who knows.
14[21:49] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 stream dropped out during the assembly
14[21:49] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 Only NYTimes, CNN, Daily News, & WABC reporting
14[21:49] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23occupywallstreet
14[21:49] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Adz: They are making a mistake. People do that sometimes. It will be reported mainstream if it isn't dispersed tonight.
14[21:49] 14[125schock14]6 democracy now ran something
14[21:49] 14[125thecrook14]6 Monday is the day.
14[21:49] 14[125STLegacy14]6 Adz: So I will be there all night and do what I can. I'm just upset I couldn't be there earlier
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14[21:49] 14[125era_14]6 So nobody in this chat is down there? Just checking
14[21:49] 14[125schock14]6 It only gets coverage if it grows between now and Monday
14[21:49] 14[125STLegacy14]6 lol, good point era_
14[21:49] 14[125PaulJ14]6 good luck, I'm so glad this is happening - can't participate yet b/c I live far away
14[21:49] 14[125poo-brains14]6 Yes Monday is everthing
14[21:49] 14[125STLegacy14]6 later, headed out now
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14[21:50] 14[125adz14]6 STLegacy: the first thing they teach in damage control is that if you really fuck up you publicize your mistake before anyone else can
14[21:50] 14[125egax14]6 good job legacy, ill bring som water bottles tomorrow
14[21:50] 14[125STLegacy14]6 http://www.facebook.com/JustSherm add me if you want chat updates while I am down there
14[21:50] 14[125JoshB14]6 The key goal right now should be to maintain the momentum and grow the crowd going into monday. The current focus on logistics is just fine -- necessary logistical practice for a larger, longer occupation.
14[21:50] 14[125thecrook14]6 anybody from the 215 in here?
14[21:50] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 Anyone who is not there: tweet to reporters and MSM and tell them to cover the occupation!
14[21:50] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 Across the river. Watching heliocopters from my roof
14[21:50] 14[125adz14]6 oh damn they have helicopters?
14[21:50] 14[125schock14]6 Is the 'one demand' ready yet?
14[21:50] 14[125schock14]6 LOL
14[21:50] 14[125dkmejia14]6 @STLegacy - request sent. dorothy
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14[21:51] 14[125JoshB14]6 MSM coverage doesn't matter right now. If they did cover it and it only had 500-1000 people, would look pathetic
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14[21:51] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 some of us are planning on occupying a square in our city once this gets going in NYC so that people will understand it when we do it. So keep it going NYC!
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14[21:51] 14[125poo-brains14]6 propaganda is the life blood of the fool's opinion
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14[21:51] 14[125poo-brains14]6 REX 84
14[21:51] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I'd do Buffalo, but I can't really go any further than that
14[21:51] 14[125JoshB14]6 Grass roots and word of mouth is most important right now
14[21:51] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 lol, CNN talking about amy winehouse...
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14[21:51] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 I for one dont give a fuck.
14[21:51] 14[125burlington14]6 Is there a news RSS feed from the organizers?
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14[21:52] 14[125Debord14]6 How likely is it that it'll last longer than tonight?
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14[21:52] 14[125poo-brains14]6 https://occupywallst.org/
14[21:52] 14[125usotsuki14]6 there needs more mainstream coverage, I saw a mention on cbsnews.com and WNYW's website
14[21:52] 14[125schock14]6 LOL I guess #refref was a honeypot: http://anoncmd.wordpress.com/
14[21:52] 14[125danique14]6 is there police?
14[21:52] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes
14[21:52] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 I think there are people there who will stick around for months
14[21:52] 14[125cHills14]6 LOL yeah there are bigger things goign on than to talk about Amy Winhouse. No offence to her or her friends
14[21:52] 14[125usotsuki14]6 also, mfw my nick was still reg'd after all these years
14[21:52] 14[125usotsuki14]6 who cares about Amy Winehouse?
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14[21:52] 14[125cHills14]6 (excuse the spelling errors hah)
14[21:52] 14[125adz14]6 know anybody there with a tent? Also would it help if I brought some blankets or something for the folks?
14[21:52] 14[125cHills14]6 I dont
14[21:52] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 I do
14[21:52] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 Debord: very likely. people can just come back again and again. and should.
14[21:52] 14[125schock14]6 adz: yeah blankets r good
14[21:52] 14[125cHills14]6 dont care about any celebs.
14[21:53] 14[125JoshB14]6 It's too late for tonight but one proposal earlier was to split into groups and march through different streets and spread the word, chanting basic meeting instructions and overall purpose. I liked that idea
14[21:53] 14[125schock14]6 we could use some celebrity support, actually
14[21:53] 14[125thecrook14]6 anybody planning to show up monday who couldn't make it today?
14[21:53] 14[125poo-brains14]6 i think so
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14[21:53] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 lupe fiasco is on this
14[21:53] 14[125egax14]6 anyone have the link for the stream please?
14[21:53] 14[125schock14]6 It needs to grow tomorrow (Sunday) and then more people camping Sunday night into monday morning
14[21:53] 14[125cHills14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:53] 14[125cHills14]6 down
14[21:53] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I'm not a leftist, I'm not a rightist, I'm just handicapped and living on SSI and foodstamps, and the prices grow faster than the SSI
14[21:54] 14[125adz14]6 yeah I was just thinking that would be a hell of a lot more effective if this was during the work week
14[21:54] 14[125banga14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:54] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[21:54] 14[125egax14]6 dam
14[21:54] 14[125schock14]6 the best way to grow tomorrow would be performances by musicians and whatnot who are down
14[21:54] 14[125adz14]6 all you see is tourists on weekends
14[21:54] 14[125egax14]6 thx guys
14[21:54] 14[125usotsuki14]6 and I just hate the effing turn things are taking
14[21:54] 14[125schock14]6 let's start tweeting @ NYC musicians to come down and perform tomorrow
14[21:54] 14[125cHills14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s is up
14[21:54] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 dude they should get tom morello to show
14[21:54] 14[125cHills14]6 and the PO PO's are there
14[21:54] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 It looks bad right now, but trust me, as a michigan football fan, the first quarter means nothing.
14[21:54] 14[125TruthSeeker14]6 Please sign petition to District Attorney Larry Chisolm of Savannah, Ga for Troy Davis
14[21:54] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 he will at some point if they keep it going
14[21:54] 14[125usotsuki14]6 one side you got christofascists, and the other side you got the corporatists
14[21:54] 14[125schock14]6 mos def
14[21:54] 14[125schock14]6 talib
14[21:54] 14[125adz14]6 schock: don't they need a permit for that
14[21:54] 14[125schock14]6 lupe fiasco
14[21:54] 14[125usotsuki14]6 either way you put it it sucks
14[21:54] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 adz: it will be during the work week on monday. use these 2 days to organize committment to staying for months NO MATTER WHAT.
14[21:54] 14[125poo-brains14]6 blackstar
14[21:54] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Remember, remember the 5th of November - London UK Protest at Parliament http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU Follow http://twitter.com/#!/Anon_opsUK on twitter for updates
14[21:54] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 technique was there
14[21:54] 14[125dkmejia14]6 yfrog links being wiped out during FB share. can use another site?
14[21:54] 14[125TruthSeeker14]6 http://action.naacp.org/page/s/petition-larry-chisolm?utm_medium=email&utm_source=NAACP&utm_campaign=20110914troydavisDApetition&source=20110914troydavisDApetition
14[21:54] 14[125schock14]6 adz: you don't need a permit if you have enough ppl LOL
14[21:55] 14[125TruthSeeker14]6 Thank you
14[21:55] 14[125schock14]6 define *need*
14[21:55] 14[125schock14]6 did technique tweet it?
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14[21:55] 14[125schock14]6 technique should announce a show tomorrow at noon
14[21:55] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 permits can suck my balls. Just because its the law doesnt mean its right.
14[21:55] 14[125adz14]6 schock: well when you have one person doing something (Ex musician) police can approach that one persona nd ask them to leave
14[21:55] 14[125egax14]6 Copy paste the link, dont share on FB, sometimes it wont let you
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14[21:55] 14[125Guest8164514]6 Where is ALEX JONES NOW?
14[21:55] 14[125dkmejia14]6 they did have a permit. what's being challenged?
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14[21:56] 14[125usotsuki14]6 the corps prolly own the damn cops
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14[21:56] 14[125poo-brains14]6 they do
14[21:56] 14[125schock14]6 anyone who has contacts w/musicians in NYC contact them now to try and get down tomorrow at noon
14[21:56] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 they own the politicians
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14[21:56] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 who own the cops
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14[21:56] 14[125usotsuki14]6 it's worse than dealing with the f'n scientrollogists
14[21:56] 14[125poo-brains14]6 they are going too move in at 10pm
14[21:56] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 They dont own the cops, they own the people who own the law.
14[21:56] 14[125adz14]6 poo-brains: who is
14[21:56] 14[125usotsuki14]6 though at least I was able to protest THEM, since they had an org out in Buffalo
14[21:56] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 I was listening to best of the left yesterday and they had an officer on there tlaking about how cops vote against thier interests all the time
14[21:56] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 What time is it NY right now?
14[21:57] 14[125usotsuki14]6 10 pm
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14[21:57] 14[125LongIsland14]6 9:57pm
14[21:57] 14[125adz14]6 WaitWhat: 10
14[21:57] 14[125usotsuki14]6 well
14[21:57] 14[125Sqwee14]6 wish I could attend, don't live in NY though
14[21:57] 14[125adz14]6 yeah
14[21:57] 14[125usotsuki14]6 9.57
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14[21:57] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 Thanks
14[21:57] 14[125Sqwee14]6 How many people are out there right now?
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14[21:57] 14[125Guest8164514]6 Where is ALEX JONES NOW?
14[21:57] 14[125burlington14]6 yeah, how many people there now?
14[21:57] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I'm in Niagara Falls, - still New York, but not remotely New York City
14[21:57] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 Why the fuck are we talking about alex jones.
14[21:57] 14[125adz14]6 maybe we should get some standup comics down there
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14[21:57] 14[125usotsuki14]6 who the hell is Alex Jones?
14[21:57] 14[125poo-brains14]6 adz http://twitpic.com/6mfqcu
14[21:57] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 The guy is not credible.
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14[21:58] 14[125cHills14]6 Its too bad George Carlin isn't around! I'd want him down there in NYC
14[21:58] 14[125JoshB14]6 @ohalois: "BREAKING NEWS: They're not letting stay. A trick. Police vans rolling up with sirens "
14[21:58] 14[125cHills14]6 up there lolz
14[21:58] 14[125egax14]6 the reaon they dont use bullhors is because cops wont let them have amplified sound devices
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14[21:58] 14[125Debord14]6 some talk about huge bump in police presence
14[21:58] 14[125usotsuki14]6 the wingnuts on the right can't fathom that it's anons doing the protesting of their own
14[21:58] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 follow @davidgraeber for updates. he is an anarchist professor who is down there.
14[21:58] 14[125blee14]6 Carlin would kick some ass!
14[21:58] 14[125Debord14]6 anyone know anything more?
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14[21:58] 14[125poo-brains14]6 YES POLICE are moving in
14[21:58] 14[125TruthSeeker14]6 Hit up on facebook - https://www.facebook.com/JustSherm
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14[21:58] 14[125schock14]6 where the fuck is the live stream...
14[21:59] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 wait they had permission to stay
14[21:59] 14[125thecrook14]6 is there a live feed on the police advance?
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14[21:59] 14[125longfeather14]6 any counts on how many people are there.?
14[21:59] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 like 500-1000
14[21:59] 14[125anonaly14]6 there were more earlier
14[21:59] 14[125egax14]6 I dont see police dvancing on the stream, just FEW HAPPY GIRLS SINGING
14[21:59] 14[125brwyatt14]6 This is the only live stream I know that is broadcasting right now: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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14[21:59] 14[125Debord14]6 need more live feeds from people who are actually there
14[21:59] 14[125anonaly14]6 but some aren't camoing out
14[21:59] 14[125anonaly14]6 camping*
14[21:59] 14[125poo-brains14]6 tons of VANS
14[21:59] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 STOP the rumors about the cops "coming in soon" now! it doesn't matter! if anyone is arrested, they'll get minor charges that will be dismissed. and will prolly get $$$ in civil lawsuits and be rich.
14[21:59] 14[125adz14]6 schock: http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2011/09/wall-street-occupation-live-cam.html works
14[21:59] 14[125cHills14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[21:59] 14[125usotsuki14]6 any low bitrate feeds?
14[21:59] 14[125longfeather14]6 can't find much on the net re: live streams
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14[21:59] 14[125usotsuki14]6 lol stolen wifi, and lol hell phone net
14[22:00] 14[125schock14]6 adz: it's not live
12[22:00] [2a1] 112themacg33k1: 5It is now TEN O'CLOCK EDT. NYPD may attempt to remove protesters from lower Manhattan. Godspeed to the Revolution!1 [2a1]
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14[22:00] 14[125themacg33k14]6 … stupid automatic /me!
14[22:00] 14[125egax14]6 poo head...stop the nonsense
14[22:00] 14[125Yoko14]6 ATTN: my friend just called, said there was a mass arrest between Wall St. and Broad St.
14[22:00] 14[125brwyatt14]6 adz: that isn't live, though
14[22:00] 14[125Hermano14]6 I love all the trolls in the Livestream.com chat room
14[22:00] 14[125Yoko14]6 can anyone confirm?
14[22:00] 14[125usotsuki14]6 la revolución no será televisado?
14[22:00] 14[125adz14]6 schock: oh. weird says live
14[22:00] 14[125usotsuki14]6 lol
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14[22:00] 14[125themacg33k14]6 Hermano: indeed, lol
12[22:00] [2a1] 112usotsuki1: 5poofs for a few1 [2a1]
14[22:00] 14[125egax14]6 i dont see anybody getting arrested on the stream
14[22:00] 14[125longfeather14]6 thx for the feeds
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14[22:00] 14[125egax14]6 lets hope its live
14[22:00] 14[125cHills14]6 That global revolution feed is being swarmed with trolls LoL
14[22:00] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 televisada
14[22:00] 14[125adz14]6 Yoko: what's witht he arrest
14[22:01] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 streams arent live
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14[22:01] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 revolucion is feminine
14[22:01] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 er
14[22:01] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s <-- COPS
14[22:01] 14[125egax14]6 let me turn on my police scanner and see if i can find out yoko
14[22:01] 14[125Cyp__14]6 TheSilentCartogr: ustream is, no ?
14[22:01] 14[125egax14]6 hold on
14[22:01] 14[125themacg33k14]6 egax: Global Revolution isn't live right now
14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 updates on arrests?
14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 updates on arrests?
14[22:01] 14[125Yoko14]6 egax: thanks
14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 updates on arrests?
14[22:01] 14[125longfeather14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution is dead for me
14[22:01] 14[125usotsuki14]6 most -ción stuff is
14[22:01] 14[125usotsuki14]6 and la is
14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 police may be using alternate frequency for this event
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14[22:01] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 none afaik
14[22:01] 14[125poo-brains14]6 lets me pull up police ban
14[22:01] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 there was a scanner app earlier
14[22:01] 14[125themacg33k14]6 thecrook: repeating your message will get your point across better!
14[22:01] 14[125themacg33k14]6 thecrook: repeating your message will get your point across better!
14[22:01] 14[125themacg33k14]6 thecrook: repeating your message will get your point across better!
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14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 sure will
14[22:01] 14[125Hermano14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905
14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 some people don't notice one message going by
14[22:01] 14[125Yoko14]6 longfeather: that livestream is down. I think people were looking for a battery, not sure what's happening now
14[22:01] 14[125thecrook14]6 three seems more appropriate.
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14[22:02] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 ones on the way
14[22:02] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 @davidgraeber good to follow on twitter
14[22:02] 14[125blee14]6 remember to chant OM or some kind of mantra when the police move in, it worked well for Allen Ginsberg in the Chicago uprising
14[22:02] 14[125usotsuki14]6 ah, yeah, *ada
14[22:02] 14[125usotsuki14]6 mfw
12[22:02] [2a1] 112usotsuki1: 5poofs1 [2a1]
14[22:02] 14[125tootsie14]6 heard there were 50000, is this accurate?
14[22:02] 14[125Yoko14]6 Hermano: is that actually live cop chatter?
14[22:02] 14[125veto14]6 i think the cops are just analyzing the situation
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14[22:02] 14[125Hermano14]6 Yep
14[22:02] 14[125Yoko14]6 tootsie: doubtful
14[22:02] 14[125tma_14]6 are the cops clearing the area or no?
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14[22:02] 14[125Yoko14]6 tma_: not sure
14[22:02] 14[125adz14]6 tootsie: hell no. 50k won't fit on the streets of wall st
14[22:02] 14[125egax14]6 something going on on brodway, canmake up what they say on the radio
14[22:03] 14[125Debord14]6 more like 500
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14[22:03] 14[125tootsie14]6 thought it sounded high! any arrests?
14[22:03] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Attention England UK, Protest. London. 5th of November. #Operationremember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU follow http://twitter.com/#!/Anon_opsUK for updates
14[22:03] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 I think it was more than 500
14[22:03] 14[125tootsie14]6 hard to find news about this out here!
14[22:03] 14[125Yoko14]6 tootsie: something's going down right now, but we can't get a live feed. egax is listening to police chatter
14[22:03] 14[125nycbaby14]6 Send the link for the radio again please
14[22:03] 14[125Yoko14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905
14[22:03] 14[125Hermano14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905
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14[22:03] 14[125nycbaby14]6 Thanks
14[22:04] 14[125egax14]6 radio is actually kinda quiet...
14[22:04] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 LIVESTREAM IS UP
14[22:04] 14[125JoshB14]6 feed says live now
14[22:04] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 livestream is live!
14[22:04] 14[125tootsie14]6 thanks! am following this and supporting the movement from afar!
14[22:04] 14[125adz14]6 what the heck is the problem with the livefeeds? out of 500-1000 people not one can get a solid stream?
14[22:04] 14[125schock14]6 Ustream seems to be up too http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[22:04] 14[125anonaly14]6 live stream talking to people who are there: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[22:04] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1855
14[22:04] 14[125janejana14]6 :D
14[22:04] 14[125LongIsland14]6 How can they kick them out?
14[22:04] 14[125siulimtao14]6 what county is nyc?
14[22:05] 14[125themacg33k14]6 longfeather: tear gas and guns
14[22:05] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 livestream is not up
14[22:05] 14[125themacg33k14]6 siulimtao: New York County
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14[22:05] 14[125egax14]6 manhattan
14[22:05] 14[125siulimtao14]6 k
14[22:05] 14[125Yoko14]6 LongIsland: illegally
14[22:05] 14[125Guest8164514]6 Live feed is back on
14[22:05] 14[125LongIsland14]6 I didn't mean literally, I mant legally lol
14[22:05] 14[125LongIsland14]6 meant*
14[22:05] 14[125Yoko14]6 LongIsland: basically they can't legally
14[22:06] 14[125egax14]6 the scanner is pretty quiet......
14[22:06] 14[125janejana14]6 has that stopped the NYPD before? :/
14[22:06] 14[125egax14]6 so far 1 DUI and some assault call
14[22:06] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 NYC includes mutiple counties
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14[22:06] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 the police can do w.e they want man
14[22:06] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1855
14[22:06] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 they bust legal protests all the time
14[22:06] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 They call counties Buroughs
14[22:06] 14[125tootsie14]6 so, basically peaceful so far?
14[22:06] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes
14[22:06] 14[125egax14]6 yeah
14[22:06] 14[125siulimtao14]6 trying to find scanner chatter on the 5-0 iphone app
14[22:06] 14[125themacg33k14]6 siulimtao: Manhattan is in New York County. Bronx in Bronx, Brooklyn in Kings, Queens in Queens and Staten Island in Richmond
14[22:06] 14[125egax14]6 shots fired in rockaway, thats about it
14[22:07] 14[125ehh14]6 can someone link feed?
14[22:07] 14[125Guest8164514]6 LIVESTREAM @ http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/occupywallstreet
14[22:07] 14[125siulimtao14]6 thx
14[22:07] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
14[22:07] 14[125tootsie14]6 good deal! wish I could be there!
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14[22:07] 14[125Guest8164514]6 1000 people estimated
14[22:07] 14[125schock14]6 ANyone in the chat room there now?
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14[22:07] 14[125egax14]6 is USTREAM live or is it an old feed?
14[22:07] 14[125louisinrevolt14]6 the globalrevolution site is back live
14[22:07] 14[125danique14]6 you should demand some politicians to come down there and explain what the fuck is going on in this country..
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14[22:07] 14[125schock14]6 Doesn't sound like 1000 ppl :)
14[22:08] 14[125schock14]6 I'm not hating, I'm just saying.
14[22:08] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1855
14[22:08] 14[125Yoko14]6 where's the livestream coming from?
14[22:08] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s is a livestream that guy is not very smart thought right now. but good to hear people staying, making SOMETHING HAPPEN.
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14[22:08] 14[125egax14]6 some dudes laptop or cell
14[22:08] 14[125economicdemocrac14]6 If the question is "can we stay forever" then police can WIN. But why not follow the lead of suggestions by similar project october2011.org? Use the time together to teach one another about how to build democratic grassroots initiatives in your own regions (local currencies, coops, worker-owned/communities owned, free university etc)? Then if you do that, then even after police force you out, YOU WIN because you're mu
14[22:08] 14[125Yoko14]6 egax: no, like what corner?
14[22:08] 14[125economicdemocrac14]6 econdemocracy at gmail dot com
14[22:08] 14[125egax14]6 lol, oh idk
14[22:08] 14[125stranger_14]6 there were at most 700 at daytime, now porobably much less
14[22:08] 14[125economicdemocrac14]6 peace and good luck to all, gtg
14[22:08] 14[125Yoko14]6 I'm trying to figure out if they're anywhere near broad st
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14[22:08] 14[125schock14]6 stranger: thx
14[22:09] 14[125Sqwee14]6 so I went to the livestream, and oh look.. a walmart commercial. couldnt you guys have gotten a video feed with no commercials on it from the very same group of corporations you're protesting?
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14[22:09] 14[125egax14]6 cant really see that well
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14[22:09] 14[125schock14]6 whoever is running the livestream shouldn't front w/the numbers, just looks bombastic
14[22:09] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Nothing is free
14[22:09] 14[125JoshB14]6 the livestream is a rerun from earlier
14[22:09] 14[125schock14]6 Sqwee lol
14[22:09] 14[125thecrook14]6 don't bitch about the commercials, bitch about the commercialism
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14[22:09] 14[125poo-brains14]6 without thoese ads this couldnt work
14[22:09] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 thecrook++
14[22:09] 14[125schock14]6 we do need to set up a free open source noncommercial live stream service
14[22:09] 14[125thecrook14]6 it's not the fault fo anybody here.
14[22:09] 14[125Flavor14]6 its on CNN
14[22:09] 14[125schock14]6 poobrains, it could work actually.
14[22:09] 14[125Flavor14]6 Right now
14[22:09] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 I held a one person protest at Wall Street over the summer: held up a sign saying "bankers are terrorists" for an hour. got a great reception from tourists and some local workers. solidarity!
14[22:10] 14[125schock14]6 it requires lots of people to volunteer servers and bandwidth. LOL
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14[22:10] 14[125themacg33k14]6 schock: Apple's HTTP streaming is open source. The problem is bandwidth and speed
14[22:10] 14[125egax14]6 No talk about protesters or wall street area on scanner
14[22:10] 14[125bertil_14]6 what is happening
14[22:10] 14[125schock14]6 that's what I said. YOu can stream w/FOSS using VLC, icecast, etc
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14[22:10] 14[125tootsie14]6 thought. CNN was blacking out coverage of protest! heading there now to see the media spin
14[22:10] 14[125schock14]6 but we need better p2p streaming
14[22:11] 14[125Yoko14]6 tootsie: you're heading out?
14[22:11] 14[125LongIsland14]6 The CNN story lasted about 1 minute.
14[22:11] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Scanner radio has no Anonymous relevant chatter
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14[22:11] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 this journalist is sympathetic: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/wall-street-protest-begins-with-demonstrators-blocked/
14[22:11] 14[125thecrook14]6 tootsie: it's over. they wont cover it for more than a minute
14[22:11] 14[125Yoko14]6 I'm trying to figure out where people are
14[22:11] 14[125schock14]6 tootise: it's just starting.
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14[22:11] 14[125schock14]6 the question is will more people turn out tomorrow
14[22:11] 14[125egax14]6 DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ADDRESS OF THAT PARK?
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14[22:11] 14[125schock14]6 it needs to grow tomorrow, and continue to monday, to blow up
14[22:11] 14[125egax14]6 im going down tomorrow for sure
14[22:11] 14[125thecrook14]6 i'm trying to go tomorrow
14[22:11] 14[125seenohero14]6 Have they been kicked out of the park? if so where will everyone be, i would like to donate water
14[22:11] 14[125thecrook14]6 egax, where are you from?
14[22:11] 14[125bertil_14]6 what happened
14[22:12] 14[125egax14]6 tehy are staying at the park
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14[22:12] 14[125LongIsland14]6 I'm hoping there will be a lot of people on Monday when Wall Street is opened for "buisness"
14[22:12] 14[125dkmejia14]6 I think they switched to a dedicated channel for #takewallstreet actions. Scanner channel occassionally lets something slip.
14[22:12] 14[125egax14]6 they have owners permission
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14[22:12] 14[125thecrook14]6 egax: where are you from?
14[22:12] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yup dkmejia
14[22:12] 14[125egax14]6 im in brooklyn
14[22:12] 14[125Yoko14]6 egax: which park?
14[22:12] 14[125insteally14]6 so I heard there was some chanting at wall street peoples
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12[22:12] [2a1] 112SolitonWave1: 5mugs egax1 [2a1]
14[22:12] 14[125insteally14]6 and the wall street people were just like "lol"
14[22:12] 14[125Flavor14]6 Woah.
14[22:12] 14[125egax14]6 i dont know, im trying to find out yoko
14[22:12] 14[125dkmejia14]6 hope to hear from somebody live since there's no feed up.
14[22:12] 14[125Debord14]6 they're saying the crackdown is coming
14[22:12] 14[125Yoko14]6 wait, someone on the scanner just mentioned broad st. and beaver st.
14[22:13] 14[125egax14]6 whos saying?
14[22:13] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes 10pm
14[22:13] 14[125Yoko14]6 he wanted something from dispatch
14[22:13] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 10:13 pm EDT in NYC
12[22:13] [2a1] 112Yoko1: 5doesn't know police codes that well1 [2a1]
14[22:13] 14[125Anon40414]6 Is there someone tweeting whats going on somewhat frequently?
14[22:13] 14[125siulimtao14]6 broad and beaver was an "incog" femle whatever that is
14[22:13] 14[125dkmejia14]6 been hearing about this crackdown since 5pm
14[22:13] 14[125schock14]6 Call everyone you know in NYC and tell them to go to Zuccotti Park immediately.
14[22:13] 14[125WaitWhat14]6 Does anyone know what devices people are using to live stream?
14[22:13] 14[125Yoko14]6 siulimtao: hmmm
14[22:13] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 There sure are a lot of anonymous cop callers in NYC
14[22:13] 14[125usotsuki14]6 inb4 CEOs and such
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14[22:14] 14[125egax14]6 ZUCCOTTI PARK
14[22:14] 14[125veto14]6 i lived in downtown bangkok last year it was occupated nearly 2 month by 25.000 protesters and they reached nothing, Twenty-five people were killed 800 insured and leader of terrorims jailed
14[22:14] 14[125schock14]6 https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23TakeWallStreet
14[22:14] 14[125JoshB14]6 This guy is there and tweeting consistently when there is news https://twitter.com/#!/ohalois
14[22:14] 14[125tootsie14]6 so basically *crackdown* means what?
14[22:14] 14[125schock14]6 https://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23OccupyWallStreet
14[22:14] 14[125JoshB14]6 This guy too https://twitter.com/#!/davidgraeber
14[22:14] 14[125egax14]6 Yoko: its ZUCCOTTI PARK
14[22:14] 14[125Yoko14]6 cool
14[22:14] 14[125usotsuki14]6 the debacle in Tian An Men was a crackdown
14[22:14] 14[125usotsuki14]6 but that's an extreme example.
14[22:15] 14[125poo-brains14]6 Police vans on the move
14[22:15] 14[125LongIsland14]6 It was really good to hear about Lupe Fiasco. There needs to be more big names supporting.
14[22:15] 14[125thecrook14]6 The US cannot do what China does.
14[22:15] 14[125poo-brains14]6 heared on scanner
14[22:15] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I bet they'd like to
14[22:15] 14[125egax14]6 poo brains, how do u know, dont make things up
14[22:15] 14[125thecrook14]6 I'm sure they'd like to
14[22:15] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 The US has done what China did on small scales
14[22:15] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=1855
14[22:15] 14[125usotsuki14]6 they're controlled by the corps, that's why there's protesting now
14[22:16] 14[125Yoko14]6 I'm gonna try to head over to zuccotti park now
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14[22:16] 14[125poo-brains14]6 hear for yourself
14[22:16] 14[125adz14]6 wooohoo! heading down to wall st now. My tel is 3479349489 (hit me up if you're going too). Let me know what I should bring. So far taking laptop, blanket, iPhone iPad
14[22:16] 14[125AnonymousGuest14]6 Exclusive video of police joining the protesters - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXIzK3nLlTQ
14[22:16] 14[125Anon40414]6 which audio feed are you listening too?
14[22:16] 14[125danique14]6 veto: i lived in serbia and when everybody went on the streets, "president" was down. but you are dealing here with global corporate dictatorship...it will take little more than celebrities, musicians and tweeter.
14[22:16] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I'd cuss but I don't know if I'd be b&
14[22:16] 14[125egax14]6 re u taking a laptop or a camera yoko?
14[22:16] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Goodluck adz
14[22:16] 14[125egax14]6 u got an ipone or something to live stream?
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14[22:16] 14[125schock14]6 adz cool, get back online and in irc when you can
14[22:16] 14[125poo-brains14]6 I love you clearwireless
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14[22:16] 14[125poo-brains14]6 that is all
14[22:16] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 the Staten Island ferry is being accompanied on its crossings by twin Coast Guard boats with mounted machine guns on front... look out
14[22:16] 14[125usotsuki14]6 anywho, all I can do from here on the other side of the state is cheer you guys on
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14[22:17] 14[125usotsuki14]6 any low bandwidth or audio-only feeds?
14[22:17] 14[125usotsuki14]6 this stolen wifi isn't exactly very fast most of the time
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14[22:17] 14[125cHills14]6 Crucial Alan. Where'd you hear that?
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14[22:18] 14[125cHills14]6 gotta love the police state :/
14[22:18] 14[125poo-brains14]6 https://twitter.com/#!/ohalois
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14[22:18] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 srsly: coast guard boats escorting ferries doesn't fucking matter. quit spreading paranoia and fear.
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14[22:18] 14[125poo-brains14]6 ohalois Adam Wadley Police not making moves right now. Many vans here tho. Lots of cops around with plastic handcufs #generalassembly 3 minutes ago
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14[22:18] 14[125cHills14]6 MACHINE GUNS MAN. MACHINE GUNS!!!
14[22:18] 14[125aerobatus14]6 this thing is kinda overdue, but at least its happening:)
14[22:18] 14[125usotsuki14]6 yeah
14[22:18] 14[125cHills14]6 lulz
14[22:18] 14[125chillzar14]6 NYPD reporting that Brookfield Properties, owner of Zuccotti Park, may allow the protestors to stay overnight as long as it stays calm
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14[22:18] 14[125PoliticalGemini14]6 Good news.
14[22:18] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I think if it weren't for the sciop protests back in 08, we wouldn't be doing this stuff now
14[22:18] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 this will grow. hang in there! tahrir didn't happen in a day!
14[22:19] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://twitpic.com/6mbm7k
14[22:19] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 How nice of the PD to allow property owners decide how their property may be used
14[22:19] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 tahrir is still going on
14[22:19] 14[125aerobatus14]6 i hope it grows, cuz we NEED IT
14[22:19] 14[125usotsuki14]6 well, I was involved in the sciop protestors for about a year or so
14[22:19] 14[125LongIsland14]6 Lol Soliton
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14[22:19] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 it achieved not a whole lot either
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14[22:19] 14[125usotsuki14]6 but it was something I could do
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14[22:20] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 prez stepped down and military took over and is worse
14[22:20] 14[125usotsuki14]6 it was just a bus ride and a subway ride away
14[22:20] 14[125usotsuki14]6 oh
14[22:20] 14[125aerobatus14]6 people dont know the truth behind the financial crisis,
14[22:20] 14[125perch14]6 no machete-weilding thugs on camels yet?
14[22:20] 14[125schock14]6 chillzar LOL, Anon should send Brookfield flowers
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14[22:20] 14[125usotsuki14]6 you meant Tahrir, not Chanology
14[22:20] 14[125LongIsland14]6 Is OpBART still going on? I haven't checked on it.
14[22:20] 14[125poo-brains14]6 REX 84
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14[22:20] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes it is
14[22:20] 14[125aerobatus14]6 well, at least were not trying to overthrow the government
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14[22:20] 14[125stranger_14]6 LOL soliton, us problems are best seen from eastern europe, of course. and it' 4am in ur timezone
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14[22:20] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Attention England UK, Protest. London. 5th of November. #Operationremember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU follow http://twitter.com/#!/Anon_opsUK for updates
14[22:20] 14[125danique14]6 and when park;s owners decide to kick you out...then what?
14[22:20] 14[125usotsuki14]6 we don't need to overthrow the government. but it would sure as eff help
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14[22:21] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 wall strett is the real goverment
14[22:21] 14[125usotsuki14]6 LOL NOV 5
14[22:21] 14[125usotsuki14]6 *naturally* they'd pick that date
14[22:21] 14[125AnonymousGuest14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
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14[22:21] 14[125poo-brains14]6 cop know there being watched live
14[22:21] 14[125thecrook14]6 danique: then you walk and don't stop
14[22:21] 14[125thecrook14]6 presence is more important than setting up camp
14[22:21] 14[125usotsuki14]6 not necessarily the Guy Fawkes ref, but because of V for Vendetta
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14[22:21] 14[125schock14]6 wait, is LupeFiasco on the way to do a free show in the park?
14[22:21] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 The problem with overthrowing governments is the replacment government which is equal or worse
14[22:21] 14[125schock14]6 LOL
14[22:21] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 camp on sidewalks as close as possible. if they want to block off wall street with cops forever, create a tent city right outside of it
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14[22:21] 14[125danique14]6 thecrook: YES.
14[22:21] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 first thing that happens when they move in is they target anyone with a camera
14[22:22] 14[125egax14]6 just heard a call on the scanner about somebody using electricity illegally
14[22:22] 14[125egax14]6 hope its not at tge park
14[22:22] 14[125egax14]6 the
14[22:22] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 re. Coast Guard boats -- didn't hear it -- saw it, on the 6 oclock boat
14[22:22] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 I heard that a few minutes ago
14[22:22] 14[125thecrook14]6 probably is.
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14[22:22] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 lol illegal electricity?
14[22:22] 14[125poo-brains14]6 see egax
14[22:22] 14[125Yoko14]6 egax: yeah, not sure what that means
14[22:22] 14[125janejana14]6 well that's a new one
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14[22:22] 14[125adz14]6 what's best train to taken down now
14[22:22] 14[125egax14]6 didnt hear the address tho
12[22:22] [2a1] 112themacg33k1: 5OK, checking the NYPD scanner I have a couple things of note: No reports of shots fired in rockaway. No reports of any activity on Wall Street.1 [2a1]
14[22:22] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 coast guard also has commandos they deployed in '04 when Greene Dragon "crossed the Hudson" -- their station is beside the SI ferry
14[22:22] 14[125adz14]6 still J to fulton?
14[22:22] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 YES WE CAMP
14[22:22] 14[125egax14]6 but it was a asian dispatcher, most asian cops work on the lower east side
14[22:22] 14[125Yoko14]6 is the J train running to fulton?
14[22:23] 14[125themacg33k14]6 ugh stupid /me auto
14[22:23] 14[125thecrook14]6 if there are no reports on wall street it's because they're using a specific frequency for the event
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14[22:23] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes
14[22:23] 14[125thecrook14]6 there are cops there, there is communication happening.
14[22:23] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 just heard on the scanners: no one is doing anything seriously illegal. minor charges and an ability to come back and camp again are the only consequences of arrest, so stop freaking out about the cops.
14[22:23] 14[125usotsuki14]6 lol
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14[22:23] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Someone must have a scanner that can grab frequencies nearby radios
14[22:23] 14[125egax14]6 true crook
14[22:23] 14[125usotsuki14]6 LOL 15CHAR NICK LIMIT
14[22:23] 14[125usotsuki14]6 I see a lot of nicks getting cut off
14[22:23] 14[125Yoko14]6 adz: I'm heading onto the J train in a sec, if fulton is still running
14[22:23] 14[125AnonymousGuest14]6 whats the link for the police scanner
14[22:23] 14[125usotsuki14]6 meh, freenode's always been like that
01[22:23] 14[2Nick14] Anonymous 1changes nick to [Guest37406]
14[22:24] 14[125Yoko14]6 AnonymousGuest: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=8905
14[22:24] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 take care with cops i think thay not gonna laugh with wall street invasion
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14[22:24] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 You guys obviously have no idea how to market. the best possible thing that could happen for the cause is for the police to start arresting people.
14[22:24] 14[125AnonymousGuest14]6 thanks
14[22:24] 14[125usotsuki14]6 ^
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14[22:24] 14[125usotsuki14]6 what's that saying?
14[22:24] 14[125egax14]6 yoko: r u taking a laptop?
14[22:24] 14[125usotsuki14]6 first they ignore you
14[22:24] 14[125chillzar14]6 http://twitter.com/#!/Adbusters/status/115246702147022848 Call everyone you know in NYC and tell them to go to Zuccotti Park immediately. Could be decisive.
14[22:24] 14[125usotsuki14]6 then they laugh at you
14[22:24] 14[125usotsuki14]6 then they fight you
14[22:24] 14[125usotsuki14]6 then you win?
14[22:24] 14[125thecrook14]6 whatitdo: not all publicity is good publicity when you are trying to wake up a sleeping nation
14[22:24] 14[125Yoko14]6 egax: no, unfortunately
14[22:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 dude the police massive fSU'd in minneapolis at the RNC
14[22:24] 14[125poo-brains14]6 you really think NYC all dressed up with nothing too do?
14[22:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 and no one gave a shit
14[22:24] 14[125egax14]6 ok, be asfe
14[22:24] 14[125adz14]6 Yoko: sweet. I should be there in ~ 30. text when ur there 3479349489
14[22:24] 14[125stranger_14]6 arrests that's what many ppl on channel want
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14[22:24] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 5 killings in oregon followed by massive protest crackdown
14[22:24] 14[125Yoko14]6 cool, 2029052592
14[22:25] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 no one gave a shit
14[22:25] 14[125adz14]6 Wearing a black fedora got a blanket
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14[22:25] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 if the police attack you just runway and come back later in mass
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14[22:25] 14[125veto14]6 we should create a Wikipedia of the police faces with face analytic, so they are marked and they action will be more carefully as they are on public eyes
14[22:25] 14[125thecrook14]6 frenchy knows what's up
14[22:25] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 not to scare you... they are just guys with mirrored sunglasses... there are a lot of them -- but you can talk to them, they're not robots
14[22:25] 14[125themacg33k14]6 "Bloomberg: Jobs crisis could spark riots here"
14[22:25] 14[125Luxey14]6 So wait.
14[22:25] 14[125Guest3740614]6 I doubt they will get anywhere near 20,000 people
14[22:25] 14[125Luxey14]6 What the hell is going on right now?
14[22:25] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 veto: seems like a good idea
14[22:25] 14[125poo-brains14]6 mark my words there will be beatings
14[22:25] 14[125thecrook14]6 ain't 20k there.
14[22:25] 14[125danique14]6 you should watch for police gatherings (buses and co) outside of nyc. if they want to do some heavy shit, they have to organize themselves. until then, nothing will really happen.
14[22:25] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 a lot of them are Iraq vets -- they are Homeland Security, not NYPD
14[22:25] 14[125Yoko14]6 heading out now
14[22:25] 14[125stranger_14]6 yea, they especially know what's up in other contries
14[22:25] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 on the staten island ferry
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14[22:25] 14[125schock14]6 thecrook: hopefully by the end of the week
14[22:25] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 we got a special police against riots here ..
14[22:26] 14[125Luxey14]6 Are you guys protesting?
14[22:26] 14[125thecrook14]6 DHS is serious business
14[22:26] 14[125Luxey14]6 -.-
14[22:26] 14[125Debord14]6 need a brief rundown on current status
14[22:26] 14[125erobit14]6 +1 non-violent protest
14[22:26] 14[125egax14]6 later yoko, good luck
14[22:26] 14[125Guest3740614]6 there are probably like 2000 max there
14[22:26] 14[125cHills14]6 Luxey what do you think is going on lol
14[22:26] 14[125poo-brains14]6 holding in the park
14[22:26] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 people are getting ready for the night
14[22:26] 14[125janejana14]6 If they can keep this going into Monday/Tues then it should gain momentum
14[22:26] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 Protesters in the parks in the financial district need to stay aware that these are mixed use neighborhoods.
14[22:26] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 don't forgot abrricades
14[22:26] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 These are not pure commercial neighborhoods.
14[22:27] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 the world is watching you !!
14[22:27] 14[12@5agnosticnixie14]6 so, are parisians showing why, exactly, Hausman's plan was a stupid idea ;)
14[22:27] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 They need to be peaceful at night
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14[22:27] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[22:27] 14[125Luxey14]6 cHills; the room was spammed by themacg33k and I clicked it and CBA to leave. But now I'm interested in what exactly's going on.
14[22:27] 14[125poo-brains14]6 they are getting restless
14[22:27] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 yeah, at night people need to sleep
14[22:27] 14[125stranger_14]6 frenchy u woke up 4AM to make ur provocateur notices?
14[22:27] 14[125poo-brains14]6 the world is watching
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14[22:27] 14[125themacg33k14]6 Luxey: spammed. lol.
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14[22:27] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 why ? i'm not provocateur
14[22:27] 14[125cgbot14]6 Whats the update?
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14[22:28] 14[125usotsuki14]6 lol
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14[22:28] 14[125seenohero14]6 so are the police allowing ppl back into the park?
14[22:28] 14[125greta14]6 is everyone together or dispersed?
14[22:28] 14[125egax14]6 live stream up again?
14[22:28] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 "Wall Street" is an idea - not really a financial center anymore.
14[22:28] 14[125poo-brains14]6 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[22:28] 14[125Luxey14]6 This is just, weird... -.-
14[22:28] 14[125alanwmoore14]6 i second FrenchSupporter -- the world really is watching you! and cheering you on!!!
14[22:28] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 People are allowing people back in the park
14[22:28] 14[125egax14]6 thx poo
14[22:28] 14[125Luxey14]6 Anyways.
14[22:28] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 the park is small - like one half block
14[22:28] 14[125stranger_14]6 a lot of people from western and easstern europe are veeery active here duringtheir night time. (imho they r paid horly)
14[22:28] 14[125poo-brains14]6 here we go
14[22:28] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Attention England UK, Protest. London. 5th of November. #Operationremember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU follow http://twitter.com/#!/Anon_opsUK for updates
14[22:28] 14[125poo-brains14]6 5'
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14[22:28] 14[125poo-brains14]6 4
14[22:28] 14[125greta14]6 how many in park now?
14[22:28] 14[125poo-brains14]6 3
14[22:28] 14[125poo-brains14]6 2
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14[22:29] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 i'm unemployed so ihave time to sleep the day
14[22:29] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 cause of this fucking liberal world !
14[22:29] 14[125egax14]6 they are telling them to keep the drums down
14[22:29] 14[125Debord14]6 they gotta make a move on wall street again at some point
14[22:29] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 it has office building to the north, residential buildings to the west and south. A plaza to the east.
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14[22:29] 14[125cHills14]6 http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution http://www.ustream.tv/channel/occupy-u-s
14[22:29] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 Ew, drums when people want to sleep?
14[22:29] 14[125schock14]6 Hey cd ppl please RT this: petition @LupeFiasco to Come do a show on Monday S19: Day3 of #occupywallstreet ! http://act.ly/49p RT to sign
14[22:29] 14[125TheSilentCartogr14]6 dude like no one is going to sleep
14[22:29] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 The focus is to occupy - NOT get arrested
14[22:29] 14[125stranger_14]6 of course, so chat at night, sleep during the day and have the time to look for job
14[22:29] 14[125poo-brains14]6 people wont learn
14[22:30] 14[125poo-brains14]6 :/
14[22:30] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 police will be bad i'm afraid
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14[22:30] 14[125Debord14]6 The thing is people have to expect to be arrested
14[22:30] 14[125cHills14]6 they're making some noise on that ustream feed haha
14[22:30] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 I understand that they are all excited, but this needs to find and maintain a momentum into Monday.
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14[22:30] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 stay forver!
14[22:30] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes the police are all dress up with nothing too do
14[22:30] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 always keep quite far from police its just nazis illuminatis
14[22:30] 14[125usotsuki14]6 needs to maintain a momentum well into the week
14[22:31] 14[125Debord14]6 lol
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14[22:31] 14[125usotsuki14]6 guys need to get on the msm
14[22:31] 14[125danique14]6 are anybody going on strike monday?
14[22:31] 14[125thecrook14]6 I will be there on Monday. Is there any intention to move on the barricades?
14[22:31] 14[125greta14]6 the police are also there to protect the protesters, don't forget
14[22:31] 14[125usotsuki14]6 CNN, MSNBC...who gives an eff about Fox n00bs?
14[22:31] 14[125siulimtao14]6 well that guy that just yelled out "I want to get arrested" is gonna be a prob :(
14[22:31] 14[125thecrook14]6 we can't remain confined to the areas they deem appropriate for free speech
14[22:31] 14[125poo-brains14]6 yes monday is going too be ugly
14[22:31] 14[125PoliticalGemini14]6 MSNBC is already reporting that patrons at Cipriani's were raising drinks 'In honor' of the protesters. Maybe I'm nuts, But I didn't see anyone supporting us in the storefronts...
14[22:31] 14[125thecrook14]6 the whole nation is free.
14[22:31] 14[125occupystrikeresi14]6 greta: no they aren't
14[22:31] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 poice protect protesters ? lol
14[22:31] 14[125usotsuki14]6 >free speech zones
14[22:31] 14[125usotsuki14]6 >mfw
14[22:31] 14[125Whatitdo14]6 Thats the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
14[22:31] 14[125BrooklynRider14]6 These folks have not been properly educated in civil disobedience and when it IS called for. They are actually being given an opportunity that they may well very well miss.
14[22:31] 14[125Frenchsuporter14]6 yes me too
14[22:31] 14[125poo-brains14]6 were is my mind
14[22:32] 14[125usotsuki14]6 THE WHOLE EFFING COUNTRY IS AN EFFING FREE SPEECH ZONE
14[22:32] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 #OperationRemember
14[22:32] 14[125chasr14]6 Notice: The revolution will not be televised
14[22:32] 14[125stranger_14]6 frenchy, btw there were no barricades in france during WWII
14[22:32] 14[125SolitonWave14]6 The guitar player is not bad
14[22:32] 14[125chasr14]6 but it will be tweeted
14[22:32] 14[125truthandfreedom14]6 Attention England UK, Protest. London. 5th of November. Join irc channel #Operationremember http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZzpjLrBYNU follow http://twitter.com/#!/Anon_opsUK for updates
Session Close: Sat Sep 17 22:32:38 2011


Session Start: Sun Sep 18 09:29:25 2011
Session Ident: #occupywallst
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02[09:29] 12Topic 14::14 OccupyWallStreet -- The American Revolution Begins Sept 17th -- Be nice, on topic, and please no debate
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